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Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by mechanical_fish »

achiral wrote: post #30
jgrahamc wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's actually "anything but just like us-ist", and with the rest of the ad saying they won't accept someone who uses Windows, and starting with "PG loves us" and continuing "We like to party. We are laser focused on work, but expect to get crunk at least once a month" I'd steer clear. They did one thing right though: they decided to be in stealth mode so we don't know who those fools are.

Yes. Always steer clear of any environment where one is expected to form close social bonds with others in a party situation. The best coworker is the one you communicate with via text, right?

It's generally important that your coworkers know how to communicate via text...

There are words that work in person, at a party, after several drinks, among friends that just do not work in text. Good writers know that. Sometimes bad writers learn that.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by [deleted] »

nasmorn wrote: post #48
jgrahamc wrote: post #2

Perhaps, but more than that it's bloody stupid.

Indeed it would certainly make me not want to apply to the position. In my experience it is hard enough to maintain adequate professionalism in the 20 something caffeine crazed all nighter atmosphere of a startup. If it can't show a modicum of it in its official communication, I can already see the scenes in the office. Also: I would try to hire flowgrammers because you know they are always in the zone. EDIT: Make th…

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Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by natrius »

adestefan wrote: post #56
Dylan16807 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does "brogrammer" mean male programmer? No.

It might not on the face of it, but deep down someone that writes that has something where they think the best programmers are male.

Please spare us your pseudo-psychology.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by natrius »

mattmanser wrote: post #42
ryanmarsh wrote: post #19

Maybe, who gives a fuck?

This is my way of flagging an unflaggable post. Hell, I love memes, Reddit, drinking, partying, etc. But is that a professional or appropriate job advert for HN? Do we want to be a community which actively cultivates a 'no girls allowed' policy?

"Do we want to be a community which actively cultivates a 'no girls allowed' policy?"

That's not fair. An unwise attempt at humor isn't actively cultivating such a policy. It may be inadvertently fostering such an environment, but so many comments are busy casting aspersions on the job poster without addressing that issue.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by drivingmenuts »

RobSpectre wrote: post #45

Brogramming is just a joke. And like all Internet jokes, they end up misused in job postings as a result of the author's effort to appear relevant. I think this YC-funded startup is likely more guilty of tone-deafness rather than misogyny.

I almost stopped reading the ad at "we like to party". I did stop reading at "get crunk".

Serious, that's how they're blowing their startup money?

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by ia »

maybe they are going for cultural fit, first and foremost. if you were offended by this job advert, it's likely you wouldn't be a good fit. why hide company culture by writing a stiff and sterile ad? i'm not saying what they did was good or bad, unless they are actually breaking laws in the post--then it's bad. other than that, if you don't like the way they phrased things, don't apply.
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