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Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by adestefan » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 2:14 PM UTC

wisty wrote: post #4

It also seems ageist. It sounds like it would exclude anyone more mature than Justin Bieber.

That's the first thing that popped into my head. The worst part is I'm not even all that old, only 31. I had a serious reaction wondering if I would even consider working for anyone that posted a job ad like that. It gave me the same twitch that "rockstar programmer" does.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by danellis » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 2:15 PM UTC

jonhendry wrote: post #39

I note they aren't looking for a broffice manager.

That's because it's already an Office MANager.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by mdda » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 2:15 PM UTC

genieyclo wrote: post #23

cfontes wrote: post #8

What does brogramming mean ? I'm from brazil and this word doesn't make sense to me...

Other commenters are close, but I think it's referring more to the bro from lax culture. Lots of chilling, popping natties with fellow brahs/bros and other stuff you can read up on http://mylifeisbro.com edit: hdctambien's comment is on-point with the urbandic link. I believe a similar synonym with less euphemistic connotations is douchebag in certain circles, but not amongst brahs. also see http://www.youtube.com/wa…

Essential reference material : http://bros.failblog.org/

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by wavephorm » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 2:15 PM UTC

cfontes wrote: post #8

What does brogramming mean ? I'm from brazil and this word doesn't make sense to me...

It means: hey bro, we got funding from stupid investors, so come join our startup and hang out on our sofas until the bubble pops.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by adestefan » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 2:15 PM UTC

jgrahamc wrote: post #6

wisty wrote: post #4

It also seems ageist. It sounds like it would exclude anyone more mature than Justin Bieber.

It's actually "anything but just like us-ist", and with the rest of the ad saying they won't accept someone who uses Windows, and starting with "PG loves us" and continuing "We like to party. We are laser focused on work, but expect to get crunk at least once a month" I'd steer clear. They did one thing right though: they decided to be in stealth mode so we don't know who those fools are.

I didn't even get that far. I had no desire to click the link.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by adestefan » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 2:17 PM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #25

ordinary wrote: post #7

Is it sexist to refer to a male programmer as "brogrammer"? No. Is it sexist to state you're only interested in hiring male programmers? Yes.

Does "brogrammer" mean male programmer? No.

It might not on the face of it, but deep down someone that writes that has something where they think the best programmers are male.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by hucker » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 2:17 PM UTC

artmageddon wrote: post #31

Dylan16807 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does "brogrammer" mean male programmer? No.

Are you sure? I'm not sure how seriously a person could talk to a woman by addressing her as "bro".

I am currently attending college, and I can confirm that many at my age refer to a good girl friend as a "bro". It may be stupid and immature, but it is what it is. As other commenters has said, "bro" is describing the relationship and not necessarily referring to any specific gender.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by adestefan » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 2:18 PM UTC

jwingy wrote: post #36

IF brogrammer wasn't sexist (which is highly debatable), I wouldn't go so far as to call these guys juvenile and idiotic. Sometimes you just need to have a little fun with it and lighten up a bit. You only get one life to live so might as well not be so serious all the time. That being said, brogrammer probably is a bit sexist.

I agree that everyone needs time to unwind and I'll be the first in line for a drink or to hear an off-color joke, but a job ad isn't the place.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by nasmorn » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 2:18 PM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #25

ordinary wrote: post #7

Is it sexist to refer to a male programmer as "brogrammer"? No. Is it sexist to state you're only interested in hiring male programmers? Yes.

Does "brogrammer" mean male programmer? No.

would you accept sissadmin as your job title?

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Post by a-priori » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 2:20 PM UTC

danellis wrote: post #52

jonhendry wrote: post #39

I note they aren't looking for a broffice manager.

That's because it's already an Office MANager.

'Manage' comes from the Latin manus for 'hand'

Edit to add: 'Man' either started in Old English as man or mon, or came from Old High German man. In either case it meant 'human being'. It seems to have become male-only more recently.

Source: Marriam-Webster.