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Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

#42

Maybe, who gives a fuck?

This is my way of flagging an unflaggable post.

Hell, I love memes, Reddit, drinking, partying, etc.

But is that a professional or appropriate job advert for HN? Do we want to be a community which actively cultivates a 'no girls allowed' policy?

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please google the term "brogrammer". You are defending the post (or playing devil's advocate) by implying a meaning that is not really the currently held inferred meaning. (As far as I'm aware.)

Explain. I can't find any definition of "brogrammer" that isn't a portmanteau of "bro" and "programmer". And "bro" is not a gender-specific term any more than "milkman".

The first five results (including twitter, as jgrahamc mentioned) should give you an idea.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

#44

I think you might be missing the reference to a recent (funny) video about "brogramming": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_AAqi0RZM

Perhaps, but when I Googled "brogrammer" I quickly came across an @brogrammer Twitter feed where the latest tweet reads: "Just tried to jerk it to #siri. She couldn't get me off. #turing_test_fail or dyke?" https://twitter.com/#!/brogramming/status/129638489905053697

I think that fits the stereotype being portrayed pretty well. "Bros" aren't PC, but then neither is a lot of good humor. The twitter feed and the job add are just jokes.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

#46

I think you might be missing the reference to a recent (funny) video about "brogramming": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_AAqi0RZM

Perhaps, but when I Googled "brogrammer" I quickly came across an @brogrammer Twitter feed where the latest tweet reads: "Just tried to jerk it to #siri. She couldn't get me off. #turing_test_fail or dyke?" https://twitter.com/#!/brogramming/status/129638489905053697

I feel dirty just having had to upmod this.

I've just learned an important author safety tip: Google the neologisms!

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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post #2

Perhaps, but more than that it's bloody stupid.

Indeed it would certainly make me not want to apply to the position. In my experience it is hard enough to maintain adequate professionalism in the 20 something caffeine crazed all nighter atmosphere of a startup. If it can't show a modicum of it in its official communication, I can already see the scenes in the office.

Also: I would try to hire flowgrammers because you know they are always in the zone.

EDIT: Make that flogrammers

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's actually "anything but just like us-ist", and with the rest of the ad saying they won't accept someone who uses Windows, and starting with "PG loves us" and continuing "We like to party. We are laser focused on work, but expect to get crunk at least once a month" I'd steer clear. They did one thing right though: they decided to be in stealth mode so we don't know who those fools are.

Yes. Always steer clear of any environment where one is expected to form close social bonds with others in a party situation. The best coworker is the one you communicate with via text, right?

The thing is, it's a professional relationship, not a friendship. If they need to fire you, they will. Sure, a friendship can form, but... I would say that true friendships are ones that have already weathered various changes of employer.

Re: Ask HN: Is brogrammer a sexist term?

#50

Brogramming is just a joke. And like all Internet jokes, they end up misused in job postings as a result of the author's effort to appear relevant. I think this YC-funded startup is likely more guilty of tone-deafness rather than misogyny.

Agreed. I always took the term as mocking the mindset/appearance than anything else.

And these YC guys... they're just knuckleheads using the latest buzzwords. The "web scale" meme may fit them too.

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