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Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by mdavidn »

mavhc wrote: post #174
bell-cot wrote: post #114

Reminds me of an incident we had with Dropbox a decade ago. They deleted some niche accounting software (custom developed by us) from our Dropbox account, plus their own log files covering those deletions. Then played ignorant. We learned the lesson, and never again trusted Dropbox, for anything. (Best guess - a would-be client got pissed when software which they'd never paid for lacked a feature, and told Dropbox a…

Aren't the files still on the computers that Dropbox synced to? Deleting files from Dropbox's servers, that's fine, deleting files from my computer that I uploaded to Dropbox, that's bad.

> Aren't the files still on the computers that Dropbox synced to?

Not if “smart sync” is enabled on the folder.

https://help.dropbox.com/installs-integrations/sync-uploads/...

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by shkkmo »

kmeisthax wrote: post #153
hs86 wrote: post #24

If he uses it for work, and clearly, most shared links he creates are of copyrighted media content, how would this work in practice? Does Google Drive/Dropbox have some flag for "creator" accounts?

Assuming this is copyright related... probably not. The only way this could be done in practice would be for Justin Roiland/Williams Street/Rick & Morty LLC/Cartoon Network/Warner Bros. to legally indemnify Dropbox - as in, agree to pay all of Dropbox's legal fees and damages if they get sued for copyright infringement outside of their DMCA 512 safe harbor. This is entirely impractical for an individual to pull off,…

> whoever Justin is pirating content from

Wow, you've made a huge assumption here.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by blamazon »

foxbarrington wrote: post #84
Hitton wrote: post #5

This wouldn't happen with SFTP, CVS and a $5 VPS.

If anyone doesn’t get the reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

It's worth also reading this and similar comments by dang on the topic for context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27068148

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Post by TameAntelope »

ziddoap wrote: post #207
TameAntelope wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Of course I pointed and laughed at you, you were (and still are) acting very poorly towards others. A non-confrontational mention that a tone marker would have helped, which you turned into an attack somehow (?), then you took pedantry to a new level (not uncommon on HN, but lol), and then after other insults on the OPs intelligence you say that they are acting poorly? What a laugh.

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Post by smaryjerry »

barnabee wrote: post #149
kixiQu wrote: post #58

Isn't it pointless to discuss this without knowing more about the communications that happened?

Not really. It’s unacceptable for Dropbox to know/inspect what content you’re storing, scan it for anything without you actively requesting they do so, and certainly to delete it. This behaviour and any terms of service that allow it should be illegal. The fact that it goes on constantly is a scandal.

I kind of get both sides. They shouldn’t scan personal files at all but then again Dropbox files are also shareable and is kind of like YouTube in that way. So if in this case a guy has copyrighted content, which they own the copyright for, and are sharing copies of copyrighted content, how can an algorithm know it’s not some random person. It’s much more likely not to be the copyright owner than to be it. What’s the worst part imo is that there’s no recourse, no appeal process, no one to talk to for the mistake - except it seems via twitter.

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Post by cypress66 »

daenz wrote: post #184

>secret TOS violation Given the source (a comedian), this part sounds like hyperbole, not evidence of an actual "secret TOS"

He doesn't mean that the ToS is secret. He means that it's secret how you violated their ToS.

In other words, they tell you you violated ToS but no additional information.

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Post by npc12345 »

survirtual wrote: post #89
shkkmo wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Account lockouts thread are commonly upvoted, atleast partially to raise the profile high enough to force the company to do something. I upvote them because I think they expose an important issue that we need to address.

I just posted one of my own, and I agree with your sentiment. I would like to see a future where humans achieve symbiosis with machines. Our brains acting as a limbic system to a larger sovereign machine entity. Still “you”, but more. For such a thing to work, many ideas need to change. Data ownership, sovereignty, and the core philosophy in regards to machine-human augmentation needs to be reworked in groundbreaking…

I think you're shadowbanned.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by InitialLastName »

katmannthree wrote: post #190

Dropbox doesn't have any functioning contact points. I cancelled my yearly subscription a month ago the day after it renewed, they cancelled my premium benefits immediately but never send the $120 refund that the cancellation page said I'd get. Tried contacting them from their website contact page, nothing. Tried tweeting at their support account, nothing. I'm half tempted to try to get my bank to do a chargeback. It…

> I'm half tempted to try to get my bank to do a chargeback.

Do it. I guarantee Dropbox cares far more about their relationship with the credit card processors than it does about their relationship with you (who just terminated your relationship with them), so maybe if enough people do chargebacks to resolve their problems it will incentivize them to make their system work correctly.

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