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Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by toomuchtodo »

turtledove wrote: post #37
toomuchtodo wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those features are worthless if you’re entire digital storage can evaporate without any recourse.

Which definitely won't happen with a cheap VPS provider. /s

Definitely not happening with my Synology NAS unless I rage quit and throw it out a window (and it backs up to Backblaze B2).

It is unfortunately more of a time commitment then paying for Dropbox (which I previously did, for years), but I won’t lose all my data because of them finding something to complain about with a hash of one of my files (or however they’re scanning content) and nuking my account. That’s simply not an option.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by adrr »

taesu wrote: post #4

Are people still using dropbox? I thought other integrated service such as google drive and onedrive would have drove dropbox to the grave

Dropbox has more enterprise features like data governance and DLP features like requiring MDM. Drive and one drive is fine for certain things but our legal and finance documents, we need certain features.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by LinuxBender »

hs86 wrote: post #24

If he uses it for work, and clearly, most shared links he creates are of copyrighted media content, how would this work in practice? Does Google Drive/Dropbox have some flag for "creator" accounts?

I don't have an answer for your question but from experience I can say that anecdotally most well known creators have their own infrastructure or outsourced infrastructure and legal teams. Content will not be deleted unless there are repeated egregious violations and complete refusal to remediate violations of the contract that their legal team agreed to. By contact I do not mean some thing that someone clickity-clicked their way through. I mean a contract that went back and forth between legal teams and signed/recorded by a public notary. In such cases deletions would always be done by a human. I have no idea why the Rick and Morty creators did not have such an agreement in place with Dropbox to prevent this scenario or if Dropbox even supports this model.

As a funny side story, at least I think it is funny... I used to manage the backend servers for Atari. The "Internet Police" used bots to send take down notices for copyright violations and emailed us saying to take down Atari's software because it was a copyright violation. Atari was our customer. This should have been obvious as the FCrDNS had their domain name in the PTR records. I found it hilarious but also saw how that was a bit of foreshadowing as to how the internet would devolve.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by emeril »

hmmm...

I largely use https://github.com/bailey27/cppcryptfs with dropbox?

This would essentially eliminate any possibility of violating any terms of service as far as I can tell?

I'm not too comfortable putting any files on dropbox without some sort of encryption

fwiw, I've found that cppcryptfs is one of the better implementations of that sort though most (if not all) use the same library which seems to choke on certain files once in a while

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by readbeard »

taesu wrote: post #4

Are people still using dropbox? I thought other integrated service such as google drive and onedrive would have drove dropbox to the grave

Dropbox supports block-level file sync. I'm not sure if Google Drive or OneDrive support that yet? It makes a big difference when working on large files.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by Nextgrid »

capybara_2020 wrote: post #86
voisin wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ditched them for OneDrive which comes with an Office365 subscription. OneDrive is buggy, has file naming issues (on MacOS at least), is a memory hog, and has a host of other issues. So I tried iCloud+ which comes with AppleOne subscription, and it lacks some of the sharing/directory collab features I wanted. So yes, there are alternatives, many of which are free or included in other subscriptions, but they lack the…

How do you use Office365 specifically email? I only use it for one of my lesser used domains and it is the worst email/app experience I have had in ages. For some reason the outlook app went blank and had to resync. Missed a really important email. It gets like 100 MS update emails which have zero relevance to me and then it sends random emails I am not sure how to unsub from. It shows notifications for all those ran…

I use it on Mac with the built-in email client. On Linux, Evolution (via Evolution Data Server) supports Exchange too. I find their proprietary HTTP-based protocol much more reliable than IMAP and it's the only way to get push email on iOS using the stock client (it doesn't support IMAP IDLE and their proprietary equivalent is only open to GMail and Fastmail, no way to self-host and no other providers are supported).

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by turtledove »

TameAntelope wrote: post #99
mindcrime wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would argue that "failing" to interpret sarcasm in this context is generally the fault of the person employing sarcasm. With none of the other cues that are available IRL (tone of voice, body language, facial expression, etc.) there's very little to tell a reader what is meant to be taken literally, versus taken as sarcasm. So yeah, if a writer doesn't include /s or ⸮ or whatever, that's on them if their words are…

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Because they have context that I don't? Because they quickly scan down to other comments and see the people explaining the joke?

And not everyone else "got the joke". I'd assume many folks didn't get it, but didn't post.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by prepend »

beebmam wrote: post #57
prepend wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have free OneDrive through my university, and I pay $99/year and I have it through work. With multiple TB available. Yet I still use Dropbox because it’s way more usable. Running the OneDrive agent is a hobby and it spikes my machine a few times a day. Running Dropbox is something that just works and has worked for 10 years without me ever noticing the sync app (a good thing). I avoid Google because I wouldn’t want…

Never had any CPU spikes from OneDrive. How much are you storing on it?

It’s hard to tell, but I think 195GB in the cloud and 44GB on my typical workstation.

I run on MacOS and my cpu has spiked twice today already. When I hear the fans, it’s usually OneDrive.

I don’t mind the cpu as I have lots but it might take 30 seconds to sync a new word document before I can share it, so that’s annoying.

With Dropbox it’s almost instantaneous and the file just syncs up.

I’m not sure what OneDrive is doing, but it’s harder to use. I don’t want to slow down and wait for OneDrive to sync before I work with others.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by LoveMortuus »

donatj wrote: post #35
taesu wrote: post #4

Are people still using dropbox? I thought other integrated service such as google drive and onedrive would have drove dropbox to the grave

Dropbox is afaik the only cross platform one with support for extended file attributes like tags, comments and custom icons in macOS, which I use extensively.

Google Drive is also cross platform, but in Linux it's not a one click solution.
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