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Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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Post by vsareto »

shepardrtc wrote: post #210
yonaguska wrote: post #179

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In your opinion, what's the difference between a leetcoder and a real engineer? In my mind, a real engineer really shines in the non technical aspect of things, like coordination, communication, prioritization, and getting hard questions answered. But that's just me, I'm curious what everyone else's experiences are.

I agree with all of those things. A real engineer has soft skills and the ability to look beyond the immediate problem to see what is at the heart of the issue. They can see the effects of a solution and see the problems that might arise from it. They see connections. Leetcoders just find the most efficient solution for the problem at hand. They don't see connections to other problems, whether current or potential. T…

You don't want to be a real engineer in business though. Real engineers do all of the hard work and thinking while getting paid less than management.

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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Post by valdiorn »

"you’re skewing the data with somebody’s ability to prepare for the interview"

And I love it, and use it to my advantage. It's so much easier to prepare for a round of interviews, than it is to actually be good at your job. So this flaw makes it much easier to pass interviews, if you know its there.

...and believe me, I've used it :)

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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Post by sinop2 »

UncleMeat wrote: post #178
l-lousy wrote: post #146

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Anyone using a Mac for tech related jobs has a high probability of using brew. That includes a lot of googlers

Google doesn't allow any code on laptops. Everything is done via web IDEs or ssh into a linux machine. So nobody is using brew to obtain dependencies.

That seems unlikely, given that they’ve implemented an Xcode project generator for iOS apps built with their build system: https://tulsi.bazel.build/

No one’s running Xcode on the web or on a Linux machine.

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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Post by TurboHaskal »

willcipriano wrote: post #192
yonaguska wrote: post #179

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In your opinion, what's the difference between a leetcoder and a real engineer? In my mind, a real engineer really shines in the non technical aspect of things, like coordination, communication, prioritization, and getting hard questions answered. But that's just me, I'm curious what everyone else's experiences are.

To me a real engineer is good at engineering, what you described sounds like a good HR manager.

Yeah it sounds like 1x cope.

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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Post by ghaff »

jmartin2683 wrote: post #198
blueflow wrote: post #186

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After seeing all the unreliable and buggy software, i think more gatekeeping in IT would probably be beneficial. You wouldn't let someone do surgery on you that hasn't been to medical school.

Good engineers learned their craft long before any school got ahold of them. The really good ones skipped the handholding.

This is where you get attitudes like: "If you haven't been programming since you were six, you're rubbish and we don't want you."

Re: Stop Interviewing with Leet Code

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Post by blueflow »

jollofricepeas wrote: post #250
blueflow wrote: post #235

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As an adult its your responsibility to produce sensible quality despite social factors. You can not expect society to hold your hand.

I disagree. Culture is important at companies. Without it quality engineering can’t/won’t happen. People will rise to the bar set by their leadership unfortunately. Example: The engineering of the Boeing 737 Max Source: - https://www.netflix.com/title/81272421

Page 4, Part 1.1 from https://www.vdi.de/fileadmin/pages/mein_vdi/redakteure/publi... :

> Ingenieurinnen und Ingenieure sind alleine oder – bei arbeitsteiliger Zusammenarbeit – mitverantwortlich für die Folgen ihrer beruflichen Arbeit sowie für die sorgfältige Wahrnehmung ihrer spezifischen Pflichten, die ihnen aufgrund ihrer Kompetenz und ihres Sachverstandes zukommen

Translated with Google translate:

> Engineers are solely or – in the case of collaborative work – jointly responsible for the Consequences of their professional work as well as for the physical performance of their specific duties, which are due to them due to their competence and their expertise

Carrying this responsibility is a (indirekt) requirement for being legally able to call yourself engineer here.

Edit: a Netflix movie is a form of entertainment and not a valid source.

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