Former U.S. congressman, operative pleads guilty to election fraud charges

Post by stefantalpalaru » Thu, Jun 09, 2022, 8:01 AM UTC

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> No, it doesn’t happen often enough to undermine the integrity of elections in the aggregate. Ridiculous to just throw this out as if it's a concrete fact. Even changing the outcome of a Presidential election doesn't require any kind of sweeping, nationwide fraud campaign. Just enough well-placed ones where the vote will be close enough that the fraud doesn't have to be too large. I'm not saying it has or hasn't hap…

> Even changing the outcome of a Presidential election doesn't require any kind of sweeping, nationwide fraud campaign. Just enough well-placed ones Were that to have happened, analysis of the voting results would show a divergence in results in those “well placed” areas. For a presidential race, there are a lot of eyes on this comparing demographic data with vote totals. For instance, in 2020 there were some allegat…

Post by weeeeelp » Thu, Jun 09, 2022, 8:06 AM UTC

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It's weird that you can bribe individual EJ's in Philadelphia like this. In Chicagoland, every polling place has a team of 4-5 judges, and they all have to sign off on the final election result, and all the procedural steps that arrive at that number; every individual vote is recorded in the pollbook. I don't even know how you'd generate fake votes in the first place, even if you bought off all 4 EJs. You can't just…

What's EJ? I wish people defined their acronyms. It doesn't appear in the linked document either.

Post by pas » Thu, Jun 09, 2022, 8:15 AM UTC

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Receipts would not have mattered here. The guilty parties were literally casting votes for people they knew would not show up. It’s an identity issue, much harder, and with its own set of controversies.

Yes. Specifically, pro-Democrat media and organisations have spent the last several years arguing that measures to make fraud like this harder, such as unregistering people who aren't living in that state anymore and checking ID when voting, are themselves election rigging. There are endless headlines counting every single entry removed from the electoral roll or even just marked for extra checking as a vote suppress…

Post by cm2187 » Thu, Jun 09, 2022, 8:32 AM UTC

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That is how voting with electronics should be. It's great for entertainment/news etc to get early results but ultimately it doesn't matter if it takes a day or two with analog counting. Same day results really don't help with anything.

In the UK we count ballots manually. We have 90%+ of results overnight. There is even a race between a few constituencies to be the first to officially declare a result. These guys are really well organised, and for a few days it is a huge piece of civic pride.

Post by cout » Thu, Jun 09, 2022, 8:39 AM UTC

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The gloves one is easy - some people took Covid as a serious threat to themselves and wore gloves - I saw many people wearing gloves to shop and then throwing them away before getting to their car. It's also interesting that the map of ballot drop boxes was wholly incorrect in 2000 mules. Finally, one of the alleged mules was reached out to - and it transpired he was not, in fact, a mule, but was dropping off the bal…

>Finally, one of the alleged mules was reached out to - and it transpired he was not, in fact, a mule, but was dropping off the ballots for himself, his wife, and adult children, which is entirely within the law. ...and one was reached out to that said she was part of a bigger conspiracy on collecting ballots and dropping them into boxes that weren't being monitored by video. One example doesn't mean it applies to al…