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A six-month program in Britain will assess the effects of a shorter workweek

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Re: A six-month program in Britain will assess the effects of a shorter workweek

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It's a joke how such a simple thing as reducing the maximum allowed working hours involves so much politics. There's nothing magical about 5-day/40-hour weeks. If it was reduced to 4-day/32-hour weeks, the employers can still manage their employees to work 5 days in overlapping shifts.

I think it's as simple as holding a referendum and seeing what do people want.

Re: A six-month program in Britain will assess the effects of a shorter workweek

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post #119

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Anybody advocating a specific n-day workweek, whether n is 4, 5, 6, or anything else, is probably going to claim their system has advantages related to productivity. The argument can be more complicated than just "the company will be more productive." Examples are "society will be overall more productive" (because the free time will be used productively), or "people should be allowed to work more hours if they want"…

> I think it's wrong to claim anyone advocating a 4-day workweek must necessarily believe a company will have higher productivity. The experiment being discussed here literally sets workers the target of achieving the same output as they previously managed in 5 days. Sure, some people prefer 4 day weeks and happily take a pay cut in return and some people want government intervention to give them a better deal, but -…

"Many" is fine. The earlier comment implied every single one believed every single job would be more more productive at 32 hours than 40, which seems like a misrepresentation.

Re: A six-month program in Britain will assess the effects of a shorter workweek

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But that's not for you to decide. We live all together, and someone getting sick from an infectious disease concerns us all.

People who don’t want to get exposed can just continue to stay at home. Sure, they might not like it, but my children don’t like the house arrest either. The difference is that I’m not forcing anything on you, it is you who are forcing things on me.

Yes you are forcing things on people, without noticing it.

You are forcing vulnerable people to stay at home.

Re: A six-month program in Britain will assess the effects of a shorter workweek

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post #147

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People who don’t want to get exposed can just continue to stay at home. Sure, they might not like it, but my children don’t like the house arrest either. The difference is that I’m not forcing anything on you, it is you who are forcing things on me.

Yes you are forcing things on people, without noticing it. You are forcing vulnerable people to stay at home.

No, I’m not, any more than I am, through my driving, forcing people scared of being hit by a car to stay home.

Re: A six-month program in Britain will assess the effects of a shorter workweek

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I actually think it's quite astounding that they haven't been forced to give this up, and I hope they never have to. Specifically, when I go to my GP, the staff are always busy, don't appear to get much of a break at all. I doubt a half day on a Wednesday makes up for extra hours put into their job just to get through the week.

I mean to me it makes sense that they would be less busy if they worked a full week like everyone else. When we have a shortage of GP's and it's impacting people across the country (and having a knock on effect on hospital A&E usage) disallowing 4.5 day weeks would probably help. There are obviously much bigger issues at play (e.g. recruiting GP's) but that doesn't mean we should ignore things that could impact immed…

The odd thing is that you have about as many GPs per capita as Norway yet GPs in Norway don't seem to be anything like as busy and they are also much easier to get appointments with. I do realize this is anecdotal evidence though.
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