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The analysis done from Brennan gives me opposite of hope if you read everything published by them.
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The important question: is he an outlier, or the norm?
I would suspect that people who behave like he does would out-compete people who behave honestly. From a Darwinian perspective, it would seem that the entire population of politicians will eventually make this same adaptation or otherwise get voted out. It's like steroids, once everyone starts using them the honest people are no longer able to qualify.
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They didn't hack the machine. They actually voted on the machines multiple times. The same scheme would have worked with mechanical machines or paper ballots.
I know for a fact that where I vote it is impossible to vote more than once (or close to, Berlin managed to fuck up voting last year for some reason). How is it impossible? Everyone is centrally registered with their primary residence. Based on these records, invitations are sent out prior to elections. With that invitation, or passport or ID, you show up at your voting local (of which there are plenty, the school ju…
So long as the people who’s votes you are stealing don’t come in, then you are safe.
There are no systems safe from fraud if you allow human judgment to be a part of the system.
They make it sound so simple: Bribe the Judge of Elections who oversees everything. Dilute the vote tallies by using the voting machines to increment the votes for specific candidates. Certify that the fake results are correct. Lie if anybody asks. This person did this with 2 separate judges. Why is it so easy?
> This person did this with 2 separate judges. Why is it so easy? Apparently this demonstrates the power of the invisible hand of the marketplace.
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You find a bunch of people that can't or wouldn't vote and collect their automatically mailed ballots, fill them out and have them dropped off in boxes. That's one way to illegally harvest votes. One that almost certainly occurred in nursing homes around the country in the last election.
> almost certainly occurred Citation, please.
https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2022/02/24/macomb-county-nursin...
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2020/11/12/texas-nursing-home-w...
https://www.apr.org/2007-07-13/two-charged-with-voter-fraud-...
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/4th-resident-of-villages-f...
https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/wisconsin-sheriff-wants...
https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/vote-fraud-election-sen...
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If something political was in the title it would be flagged off of HN pretty quickly. This is a justice.gov article which are frequently posted to HN and election security is a common topic here, so it's pretty safe.
Americans have a really tough time with the notion of materiality. America is such a big country that, as a matter of statistics, anything that can happen is happening. That doesn’t mean it happens often enough to call into question our basic systems. In this case it’s the right that fails to grasp materiality. Yes, people vote illegally, ballot boxes get stuffed, their is collusion, etc. No, it doesn’t happen often…
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And still this never happened in any other democratic country doing paper ballots. Simple reason: If there are more votes in the ballot box then registered voters (ideally this means everyone above voting and eligible to vote) you know someone tempered the ballot box. And having more than one (where I live I'm always puzzled how they find the hundreds of people to monitor the dozens of polling places since we have at…
I vote but I don’t vote in every single election that I can due to other obligations. Their fraud used the voter information of real people who they expect to simply not come to the polling station. It’s hard to catch. If you notice double voting from when the person actually votes then they simply throw out both votes (legitimate and illegitimate). This seems like a tactic that would work well in a place like the US…
And I am describing just one way of how paper ballots work save, anonymous and at scale. You need some truly mind blowing organizational fuck up (look up the last election in Berlin) for it to not work. An even then it affected one single (?) voting district (as in polling places, not candidate districts if i remember correctly), was instantly identified and investigated and almost impossible to use to temper with the results (it was found out immediately).
It's weird that you can bribe individual EJ's in Philadelphia like this. In Chicagoland, every polling place has a team of 4-5 judges, and they all have to sign off on the final election result, and all the procedural steps that arrive at that number; every individual vote is recorded in the pollbook. I don't even know how you'd generate fake votes in the first place, even if you bought off all 4 EJs. You can't just…
From an earlier press release: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-philadelphia-judge-ele... > Demuro fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear TFA explains the other case was nepotism enabled conspiracy: > Beren, who was charged separately and pleaded guilty in October 2021, was the de facto Judge…
It's weird that you can bribe individual EJ's in Philadelphia like this. In Chicagoland, every polling place has a team of 4-5 judges, and they all have to sign off on the final election result, and all the procedural steps that arrive at that number; every individual vote is recorded in the pollbook. I don't even know how you'd generate fake votes in the first place, even if you bought off all 4 EJs. You can't just…
> In Chicagoland, every polling place has a team of 4-5 judges, and they all have to sign off on the final election result but what if they are all from the same party?
Second, the story we're talking about here is about a primary election; the whole contest took place within a single party.
Third, I'm not sure why it would matter. OK, they're all Democrats. Now what? Even if all 4 EJs wanted to corrupt the results of an election, it's not super obvious how you'd undetectably do that. The paper ballots get hauled back to the central counting facility; the registrations have to match the ballots, etc.