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This person is actually a repeat offender with a history of abusing his office. https://www.inquirer.com/news/ozzie-myers-convicted-abscam-p...
The important question: is he an outlier, or the norm?
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2022/06/0...
> After receiving payments ranging from between $300 to $5,000 per election from Myers, Demuro would add fraudulent votes on the voting machine The most staggering thing for me is how _tiny_ the payments are
I cannot imagine a system more transparent than the one implemented in the country where I come from (and some others as well): After closing the polls, the paper votes are counted manually (in from of candidates representatives and public in general) by the poll station "vocales". "Vocales" are citizens (4 in total) randomly selected for each poll, who must operate the poll during the entire day. They must report th…
They make it sound so simple: Bribe the Judge of Elections who oversees everything. Dilute the vote tallies by using the voting machines to increment the votes for specific candidates. Certify that the fake results are correct. Lie if anybody asks. This person did this with 2 separate judges. Why is it so easy?
Apparently this demonstrates the power of the invisible hand of the marketplace.
This was done by adding votes. The voter counts of poll watchers should not have matched those of the election officials. Why wasn't that noticed?
It was done by the election officials in charge of certifying the count. Read the article and it explains the whole thing. They went to great lengths to keep it "within the bounds" of the existing system, to make it harder to detect.
> After receiving payments ranging from between $300 to $5,000 per election from Myers, Demuro would add fraudulent votes on the voting machine The most staggering thing for me is how _tiny_ the payments are
That seems to frequently be the surprising thing about these corruption cases. I'm reminded of the fascinating case where journalists in Chicago bought a bar to investigate corruption. They were shocked at $10 bribes getting things done for them (30+ years ago, but still a small sum). https://interactive.wttw.com/timemachine/mirage-tavern Many of us would assume the sums of money needed to bribe officials would be hu…
From fiction and movies, one would think that selling the country's secrets to foreign governments would lead to wealth enough to set you up for life on a private island. Yet when the accounts of the treachery emerge at trial, it's always troves of highly classified documents for a few thousand dollars here or there, maybe a few $100k over decades of espionage.
It still just stuns me every time I read how in reality, while honest people would die before selling out their country, some people will sell out everyone so cheaply.
Americans have a really tough time with the notion of materiality. America is such a big country that, as a matter of statistics, anything that can happen is happening. That doesn’t mean it happens often enough to call into question our basic systems. In this case it’s the right that fails to grasp materiality. Yes, people vote illegally, ballot boxes get stuffed, their is collusion, etc. No, it doesn’t happen often…
Are you sure about that? After watching 2000 Mules, even with some skepticism about the evidence presented it certainly appears there is an effort to undermine elections in very specific places that were key to the 2020 election. Video evidence is hard to argue with. Can't say if it actually affected the outcome because I don't have all of the evidence to review it, but what was shown should be enough to get people up in arms about election fraud and finding ways to stop it.
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> For some reason progressives are against voter ID laws. It’s a barrier preventing citizens from exercising constitutional rights. The need isn’t clearly demonstrated to justify the restriction. Voter ID laws have different outcomes based on economic status. It’s especially difficult for poor people to exercise their rights. > People have stopped thinking for themselves. Or maybe someone else thought of something yo…
I think that the progressive default argument on this topic is pretty transparent BS. If it's too hard for some people to get an ID, make it easier for everyone to get an ID. Don't open up elections to an obvious fraud vector.
Now if you want to talk about National IDs that's a whole other can of worms.
> After receiving payments ranging from between $300 to $5,000 per election from Myers, Demuro would add fraudulent votes on the voting machine The most staggering thing for me is how _tiny_ the payments are
This person is actually a repeat offender with a history of abusing his office. https://www.inquirer.com/news/ozzie-myers-convicted-abscam-p...
The important question: is he an outlier, or the norm?
It's like steroids, once everyone starts using them the honest people are no longer able to qualify.