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Discriminating against commercial usage is not allowed under the Open Source Definition: https://opensource.org/osd
Hence the full circle to my original sarcastic joke. The OS definition serves a purpose of protecting users, even the bad ones, and maybe that worked when the "bad ones" where a minority with small impact. But nowadays things have changed. The "bad ones" are big fish, and have enormous impact. A growing subset of devs now start looking elsewhere, and a plethora of non-OS licenses start to pop out. People still want t…
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#252hey, OP here, figured i'd clarify some things about this project: 1) yes, I realize this is going to be way harder than it seems, but I'm actually going to do my best to hopefully get a good user experience out of this and I'm easily preparing for this to be a multi-year effort, but I'm not going to give up right at the gate 2) Custom HALs were actually an option, up until very recently, since as of Windows 10, versi…
Good luck, I hope it works out. It is hard to be in between two of the largest and most established tech companies in the world. If Apple or Microsoft wanted it, they could make it happen. I assume neither want it, at least not right now, so it is clearly an uphill battle.
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May I suggest you don't license the work in a way that allows it to be commercialized without your explicit permission and handsome compensation to you and any other contributors. You'll need this to be sustainable and it'll be incredibly frustrating if a company de-facto hijacks the development and takes it in a direction you don't expect or want.
I'll definitely take this into account thanks for bringing it up! Licensing is something I've thought about a bit before starting, right now since m1n1 (the hypervisor I'm iterating on) is MIT licensed for the most part, I'm inheriting that license too for my fork of m1n1 (i'll mainline the changes btw! need to work with marcan once they're done), but as the project goes further I'll definitely consider the question…
It'll just be sad to see apps like VMware or Parallels release a new version claiming they made a breakthrough after you've made some milestone release...
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IANAL but I'd like a license that goes something like this: Companies: If you are working for a company/corporation/profit-generating entity, or otherwise intend to sell or use such code derived from this repository for profit-generating purposes, you shall not be permitted to use any of the source code herein until you email me (author email here) and we can come up with the appropriate terms and conditions for your…
Imagine you license a word processor this way, would it then be a violation to use that word processor to edit your resume?
Technically, yes! A perfect example of an edge case that I knew would be difficult to find.
Very clever!
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#255Isn't the M1 powerful enough to just run Windows in a virtual machine?
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The OP expresses exactly why on their site. Let's assume you didn't read their site though. Why not?
All the reasons are technical but nothing about an actual user need. Especially given the cost and complexity and most likely sub native window user experience this project seems to serve no actual utility.
> this project seems to serve no actual utility
I think booting Windows on a M1 qualifies as "actual utility" for a lot of people. Just because you don't see any value in the project doesn't mean other people agree with you.
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Oh but then half of HN will complain about how that's not truly open according to a dictionary definition thus automatically becomes untrustworthy and they won't touch it with a ten foot pole. (/s) Jokes aside, technically I don't disagree on the "dictionary definition" thing there... but it's interesting how the current landscape has shifted and now more control for the developer starts to become a common interest b…
I don't generally like restrictive licenses but in this case we're taking about running closed, commercial software on closed, commercial hardware. It makes sense to use a GPL to prevent one of those companies from taking all of that hard work and incorporating it back into their platforms for free.
Mine was just a lighthearted reflection on the issue, but in general I'm supportive of the copyleft ethos. And yes, in this case it would make a lot of sense.
Actually my first reaction was to think, "Why are Microsoft themselves not doing this job?"
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I have a pretty good handle on what ads and telemetry MS ships. What ads and telemetry does Apple ship to their customers?
For starters in the telemetry category: - Every CLI program you start - Every app you download and run - Every typo you type - Every siri conversation you have Just like Windows, you can opt out with some shenanigans.
I was aware that siri sent voice data to apple by default. Because that's how siri works. But was not aware of the others. Can you link a source?
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Balmer or not, Microsoft is still in direct competition with Apple for much of its core business. So encouraging customers to buy a laptop where they get $50 for the windows license and if they're lucky another $100 in software sales, but their key competitor gets >=$1000 of profit -- yeah, it's pretty clearly a bad business choice.
Not really. OEMs pay significantly less for Windows licenses than they are retailed for. And Windows sales to consumers haven't been a core part of their business for a while now. It's all about cloud and enterprise.
Just looked at the earnings report and I have to agree with you. Windows + Office was 25% of MS's revenue in 2021, but I suspect you're right that the big majority of that is not consumer-driven. FWIW just 2 years back, Windows + Office was 40% of revenue, so this segment is very rapidly becoming less important.