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I quit the tech industry (2015)

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Re: I quit the tech industry (2015)

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self-ish is not a bad thing.

Selfish behaviour only works because the rest of society on aggregate are still contributing to the maintenance, development, and research of a multigenerational civilisation.

A society in which almost all are working not out of pure altruism, but out of necessity to satisfy their own selfish needs.

Re: I quit the tech industry (2015)

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We talk about externalities. A chemical company pours toxins into a river, an automaker knows its products kill X people per year. These are tangible, understandable. But we don't yet think of the effects on the workforce as social externalities. Industrial safety has made the workplace a much safer space physically, but not mentally. The reality is, a great many jobs make us sick. Depression, anxiety, heightened agg…

It’s interesting that you don’t consider landscaping, juice bars, and wind surfing schools as beneficial to the economy. Could it be that these highly educated and intelligent people you are talking about see things differently? Perhaps after 5 years in tech they realize that none of the companies they’ve worked for are actually providing any benefit to society and are perhaps even a net negative. That realization is…

> companies they’ve worked for are actually providing any benefit to society and are perhaps even a net negative

Right? When I started out, 1/3 of my interviews were with gambling machine companies, another was with a company that only existed to arbitrage betting odds for their own profit, and one was some kind of quasi-AI surveillance thing.

A lot of GDP is generated on completely parasitic activities, and you can do a lot worse for society than running a "soft" business ethically and happily.

Re: I quit the tech industry (2015)

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I can't afford to leave my job, I would only be able to sustain myself for ~1 year. I think I would be satisfied if I only had to work half as much: 4 hours a day, 20 a week. Now I just need to find that job...

I remember Amazon making a bunch of noise about offering 80% time and 60% time jobs a while back; they may still be doing so. If not, there are plenty of "full time" roles in big tech that only realistically require 24 hours/week.

Re: I quit the tech industry (2015)

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post #91
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Selfish behaviour only works because the rest of society on aggregate are still contributing to the maintenance, development, and research of a multigenerational civilisation.

A society in which almost all are working not out of pure altruism, but out of necessity to satisfy their own selfish needs.

I don't believe it's very selfish to want to avoid starvation and to have a roof over your head.

Re: I quit the tech industry (2015)

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We talk about externalities. A chemical company pours toxins into a river, an automaker knows its products kill X people per year. These are tangible, understandable. But we don't yet think of the effects on the workforce as social externalities. Industrial safety has made the workplace a much safer space physically, but not mentally. The reality is, a great many jobs make us sick. Depression, anxiety, heightened agg…

It’s interesting that you don’t consider landscaping, juice bars, and wind surfing schools as beneficial to the economy. Could it be that these highly educated and intelligent people you are talking about see things differently? Perhaps after 5 years in tech they realize that none of the companies they’ve worked for are actually providing any benefit to society and are perhaps even a net negative. That realization is…

> It’s interesting that you don’t consider landscaping, juice bars, and wind surfing schools as beneficial to the economy.

I definitely didn't say that. At least three of my friends now do those things. They're very happy. And they add a lot to the world, at the least by the smile they wear each day.

Re: I quit the tech industry (2015)

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Usually, when the money runs out, they return with their tails between their legs, often in shittier jobs that they'd have had if they'd stuck with it. You're right about the grass being greener. The tech industry is an absolute plague, but most other industries are just as bad. In the long term, and for most of us, the only way to escape this garbage system is to blow it up.

> Usually, when the money runs out, they return with their tails between their legs, often in shittier jobs that they'd have had if they'd stuck with it. People are trying to figure out their lives or how they want to live. There is nothing wrong in coming back to what they had quit. Making fun of other people's life choices is very immature in my opinion.

The last line shows their intention is good faith and on the side of the common people. There’s no proper way to interpret their comment as a bad faith making fun of people.

The comment happens to be against the status quo and for the every day person and that has a higher chance as being seen as something that is unusual and more negative than it actually is.

Re: I quit the tech industry (2015)

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually, when the money runs out, they return with their tails between their legs, often in shittier jobs that they'd have had if they'd stuck with it. You're right about the grass being greener. The tech industry is an absolute plague, but most other industries are just as bad. In the long term, and for most of us, the only way to escape this garbage system is to blow it up.

> the only way to escape this garbage system is to blow it up. How so? Countries with blown-up systems typically become more shitty, not less.

There’s no country that has blown things up and given power to the people. So there’s no precedent to look at.
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