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Estonia clocks fastest inflation in the Eurozone at 20.1 percent

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Worth noting that Estonia is on the Euro.

Thats what eurozone means.

As a non-Euro I would have easily confused that with something like "Schengen Zone" or one of the many other political subdivisions of which European Union nations seem to flitter in or out of depending on the political winds.

I'm thankful for the obvious comment.

Re: Estonia clocks fastest inflation in the Eurozone at 20.1 percent

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Worth noting that Estonia is on the Euro.

Yes, I had to check that.

Question which I won't expect the "inflation is always and only caused by money printing" believers to answer: how is there different inflation in different Eurozone countries?

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Probably the only country that is being honest about its inflation amount then.

Do you mean to say that other European countries are lying? This proposition seems knee jerk. Inflation can be computed by anyone, so I don’t even understand how you could lie about it.

We have 9% inflation in the UK but the reality of the costs of things that you need to live a relatively simple life (food, heating oil, fuel costs), have all gone up way more than 9%. A shop that used to cost me £80 a week now cannot be had for under £110. So you can calculate them all you like and look at the data, but the reality in my life is that prices have risen way beyond the 9% we're told is the amount.

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I am guessing the Baltic countries are hit hard by the Russia sanctions and the lack of cheap energy and food imports that has to come from somewhere else now.

Here in Lithuania we were already independent from Russian gas and oil (lesson learned over the decades), and had liquid natural gas terminal for a few years. But inflation is also very high.

Re: Estonia clocks fastest inflation in the Eurozone at 20.1 percent

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Doesnt' every country calculate their inflation separately? Because living in Germany, that 7% is laughable. Nothing has risen by that little of an amount. Not food, rent, petrol, etc. Well, I do know of something that has risen to less than 7%: salaries.

Re: Estonia clocks fastest inflation in the Eurozone at 20.1 percent

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I don't understand inflation. I understand that it's a measure of the price of things, but for me there should be two types of inflations 1. a dilution of money. Let say a central bank injects a lot of new money, then all prices will be higher, but salary will be higher too, and the overall effect is neutral 2. some prices increase due to change in supply or demand (e.g. gas or cereal), but salaries and everything else is unchanged.

In both cases, there's inflation according to the definition, but the second case is very different than the first, and it doesn't impact everybody equally (consumer vs saver).

I must misunderstand something because I never see this distinction in the medias.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean to say that other European countries are lying? This proposition seems knee jerk. Inflation can be computed by anyone, so I don’t even understand how you could lie about it.

We have 9% inflation in the UK but the reality of the costs of things that you need to live a relatively simple life (food, heating oil, fuel costs), have all gone up way more than 9%. A shop that used to cost me £80 a week now cannot be had for under £110. So you can calculate them all you like and look at the data, but the reality in my life is that prices have risen way beyond the 9% we're told is the amount.

Same here in Germany. My napkin calculations on food & groceries is at least 30%.

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Probably the only country that is being honest about its inflation amount then.

Do you mean to say that other European countries are lying? This proposition seems knee jerk. Inflation can be computed by anyone, so I don’t even understand how you could lie about it.

> Inflation can be computed by anyone, so I don’t even understand how you could lie about it.

Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics

Choose carefully and cherry-pick how you source your input numbers, as garbage in means garbage out.

Then let friendly media spokepersons help your PR quest by stating the numbers as if handed down by God himself. Then let peons on the internet call you conspiratorial.

All in all, we shan't worry - these numbers are all simply transitory :)

Re: Estonia clocks fastest inflation in the Eurozone at 20.1 percent

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I am guessing the Baltic countries are hit hard by the Russia sanctions and the lack of cheap energy and food imports that has to come from somewhere else now.

Exactly. If you notice, the second and third place are taken by Lithuania and Latvia respectively. A lot of 'cheapness' in all kinds of sectors came from RUS/UKR/BEL somewhere upstream. Building materials being a prime example. So, a combined effect of energy prices, sanctions on RUS, a war raging in Ukraine.

But then, as Estonian prime minister said recently - sure, gas is expensive, but freedom is priceless.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean to say that other European countries are lying? This proposition seems knee jerk. Inflation can be computed by anyone, so I don’t even understand how you could lie about it.

Because he wants it to be. It’s way easier to blame someone acting nefarious than living in reality.

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