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Apple Will Be Forced to Use USB-C Charger in iPhones
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
only those android users using usb-c, not those with the various preceding usb's. You are correct, it's only ever lightning accessory that becomes junk, despite lightning preceding usb-c, and having more physically robust construction.
Lightning only supports USB 2 speeds - not the most future proof standard, even if it is more robust
Lightning does support USB 3 speeds.
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0W2AM/A/lightning-to-us...
Only accessories got access to those speeds, not charging cables (because just like USB-C, it would be a nightmare of telling fast and slow cables apart).
Rather than move 5 gpbs data rate support from iPad Pro to other devices like the iPhone, they decided to replace lightning with USB-C on the iPad Pro.
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#54Looks like the iPhone 16, released in 2024, will be the first one without any ports.
They need to also increase the price.
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#55What happens when usb version N+1 has another incompatible plug type again
You just store it on Github, like any respectable library. /s
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
It already exists for micro-USB, and USB-C was developed later - evidentially, this claim does not appear to be true.
The law itself may have stifled the creation of other power systems; we may have had micro-usb-G by now without it
Because every year we need a different connector for the same shit. The only thing that was changes was Google restricting access to filesystem over USB.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd rather have one adapter that fits between all my old and all my "new" devices than 99 competing standards with no adapters whatsoever.
HN commenters have spent years complaining about Apple's adoption of usb-c, except in the single case of it being forced on iDevices, where it is clearly the only thing that could possibly be considered. Almost every "universal" device I go out to buy today requires a usb-c adapter, despite the apparent prevalence of usb-c Android devices?
Ipods do not have USB-C.
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#58I've had to replace my USB C cables a bajillion times but never once had to replace my iphone cable. I think it's because iPhone cable has the male adaptor with the female on the device, which is a lot simpler and less prone to debris, which is what you want with a cable that gets tossed around. The USB C cables has the female adaptor on the cable which accumulates debris and moisture. USB C also oddly has the male a…
I would much rather replace a cheap USB C cable than a phone. Nearly every Apple user I know has had to replace their iPhone because their lightning port stopped working.
I'm sorry, but this is complete FUD. This simply isn't a failure mode that's even remotely common by any measure.
The only thing that approximates this is that pocket lint can accrue inside the port, as small amounts of lint are repeatedly pressed into the port when inserting the connector. USB-C is susceptible to this too for exactly the same reasons: frequently-used female port that spends most of its life in a lint-generating pocket. As more is packed in, we push on the connector a little harder until the debris is deep enough to prevent contacts from connecting.
You can scoop it out in two seconds with a safety pin or other thin metal probe. And again, USB-C is equally susceptible to this failure mode.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would much rather replace a cheap USB C cable than a phone. Nearly every Apple user I know has had to replace their iPhone because their lightning port stopped working.
I'm sorry, but this is complete FUD. This simply isn't a failure mode that's even remotely common by any measure. The only thing that approximates this is that pocket lint can accrue inside the port, as small amounts of lint are repeatedly pressed into the port when inserting the connector. USB-C is susceptible to this too for exactly the same reasons: frequently-used female port that spends most of its life in a lin…
I'm sorry, but you're just spreading more FUD.
I've never had an issue with my USBC ports on my phones or billion other USBC devices going bad.
OTOH, it's a frequent problem for iPhone users. In my circle, it's frequent enough that even my brother who works for Apple has this issue, and it's frequently (but not always) severe enough that the phones require replacements, instead of the $5 cable. And that was my point from the beginning: USBC is designed so that the failure mode affects the cheap, easily replaceable cable rather than the expensive device it is connecting to.