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Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)

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Re: Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)

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The specific Dark Sky feature no one has cloned adequately is the microforecast that says "it will rain on you in 8 minutes". There's a zillion apps that do a decent job of hourly and daily weather forecasts. But the particular rain warning was something Dark Sky was uniquely good at. Rain Alarm on Android comes close, and even uses Dark Sky data (for now). But the UI isn't as good and the predictions aren't as accur…

MyRadar on iOS will give you short-term rain warnings.

Re: Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)

#42

The specific Dark Sky feature no one has cloned adequately is the microforecast that says "it will rain on you in 8 minutes". There's a zillion apps that do a decent job of hourly and daily weather forecasts. But the particular rain warning was something Dark Sky was uniquely good at. Rain Alarm on Android comes close, and even uses Dark Sky data (for now). But the UI isn't as good and the predictions aren't as accur…

I wonder why this is. It would pretty trivial to implement because everyone is using the same sources for radar and storm velocity/vector.

I manually guesstimate this all the time using PYKL3 (excellent radar app).

Re: Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)

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How they can be “integrated”, I don’t know, as Dark Sky and Apple weather give totally different forecasts for where I live, both usually inaccurate. If it’s the same data, it’s being processed differently - but the forecasts are so different, I don’t see how it can be. Maybe they just mean in the US, and international customers will have to make do with an approximation?

I don't believe the Weather app in iOS 15 /fully/ uses Dark Sky; just for some things. But that appears to change in iOS 16 with /all/ the data coming from WeatherKit (aka Dark Sky).

Edit: Here's the support page that details this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211777

Re: Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)

#44

The specific Dark Sky feature no one has cloned adequately is the microforecast that says "it will rain on you in 8 minutes". There's a zillion apps that do a decent job of hourly and daily weather forecasts. But the particular rain warning was something Dark Sky was uniquely good at. Rain Alarm on Android comes close, and even uses Dark Sky data (for now). But the UI isn't as good and the predictions aren't as accur…

I use Drops on iOS for this exact reason - it's been very accurate from my experience (I think there is an Android equivalent)

Re: Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)

#45

How they can be “integrated”, I don’t know, as Dark Sky and Apple weather give totally different forecasts for where I live, both usually inaccurate. If it’s the same data, it’s being processed differently - but the forecasts are so different, I don’t see how it can be. Maybe they just mean in the US, and international customers will have to make do with an approximation?

I don't believe the Weather app in iOS 15 /fully/ uses Dark Sky; just for some things. But that appears to change in iOS 16 with /all/ the data coming from WeatherKit (aka Dark Sky). Edit: Here's the support page that details this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211777

It doesn't. I still get "weather channel" as source

Re: Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)

#46

This headline as it currently stands ("Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)") is a bit misleading, as the relevant update was posted June 6, 2022 and is announcing the official sunset date for Dark Sky - not just the acquisition.

I read it as saying that dark sky's new home is the ios 16 weather app and the weatherkit api.

Re: Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)

#47
post #6

I am using both apps and Dark Sky still has a much more micro level forecast and is much more accurate than Apple Weather.

It makes sense that they'd offer a basic weather app that's suitable for 80% of the market, and then let third-party devs fill in the niches for the rest.

I don't think wanting accurate weather forecasts is "niche". It's just a quality difference, like a VGA monitor vs 4K monitor.

A lot of people cancel their plans because normal weather apps tell them it's going to rain, but actually that was somewhere else in the city.

I've seen a picnic get entirely ruined, the tent/awning blown away and everyone drenched, kids crying, etc., because of the lack of a weather microforecast.

Re: Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)

#48

The specific Dark Sky feature no one has cloned adequately is the microforecast that says "it will rain on you in 8 minutes". There's a zillion apps that do a decent job of hourly and daily weather forecasts. But the particular rain warning was something Dark Sky was uniquely good at. Rain Alarm on Android comes close, and even uses Dark Sky data (for now). But the UI isn't as good and the predictions aren't as accur…

MyRadar on iOS does this very well. Has notifications on when rain will start, estimate on duration, warnings if storms are predicted in the next 24 hours, lightning nearby notifications, etc. It appears to be available for Android. I subscribe to MyRadar Pro and find it quite worth it to support the development.

Re: Dark Sky Has a New Home (2020)

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post #48

The specific Dark Sky feature no one has cloned adequately is the microforecast that says "it will rain on you in 8 minutes". There's a zillion apps that do a decent job of hourly and daily weather forecasts. But the particular rain warning was something Dark Sky was uniquely good at. Rain Alarm on Android comes close, and even uses Dark Sky data (for now). But the UI isn't as good and the predictions aren't as accur…

MyRadar on iOS does this very well. Has notifications on when rain will start, estimate on duration, warnings if storms are predicted in the next 24 hours, lightning nearby notifications, etc. It appears to be available for Android. I subscribe to MyRadar Pro and find it quite worth it to support the development.

Is it using Dark Sky data behind the scenes?
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