> Employees who have historically been entrenched in the majority are also entitled to protection under laws that were intended to assure equal treatment for women and racial minorities. To me this is obvious. A plain reading of EOCC employment discrimination regulations make this obvious. The mere fact that this is deemed as "novel" or newsworthy or intriguing is a poor reflection of society itself. Fortunately the…
'Old white guy' can move forward with workplace bias suit against AT&T
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#32> Employees who have historically been entrenched in the majority are also entitled to protection under laws that were intended to assure equal treatment for women and racial minorities. To me this is obvious. A plain reading of EOCC employment discrimination regulations make this obvious. The mere fact that this is deemed as "novel" or newsworthy or intriguing is a poor reflection of society itself. Fortunately the…
law school grad here--generic white males are not afforded the same protections as protected classes
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#33About damn time. The fact that people can talk casually about "old white men" or whatever shows that they are being racist, sexist and agephobic. Maybe there isn't the same historical power imbalance but factoring that kind of thing into hiring or firing decisions is still a deontological wrong. I hope he wins and I hope that everybody who has been discriminated out of a job because they are white/black/man/woman/nb/…
> young/whatever else sues and wins Note that youth is not a federally protected class in the US – the ADEA protects people who are 40 years and older. Some states have laws protecting young people from age discrimination, but it is not universal.
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#34> Employees who have historically been entrenched in the majority are also entitled to protection under laws that were intended to assure equal treatment for women and racial minorities. To me this is obvious. A plain reading of EOCC employment discrimination regulations make this obvious. The mere fact that this is deemed as "novel" or newsworthy or intriguing is a poor reflection of society itself. Fortunately the…
law school grad here--generic white males are not afforded the same protections as protected classes
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#35>The complaint recounts an incident, for instance, about Johnson telling DiBenedetto in 2020 that he expected to retire in a couple of years. DiBenedetto said he was interested in applying for his boss’ job. Johnson allegedly noted DiBenedetto’s short "runway." According to DiBenedetto, the boss said, “In these roles, you know, you've got to be able to adapt and move, and I'm not saying you can't, but a 58-year-old w…
But then, I imagined if the same thing were said to a 58 year old black woman, and immediately realized that it's severity.
Is it just me, or has racism towards white people become acceptable/main stream (at least, much more so than racism towards other races)? I feel as if my lack of a visceral reaction to this is due in part to a form of desensitization that's taken place during my time on social media.
I rarely see this racism expressed as actual hatred, but I very frequently see disparaging jokes targeted towards white people, especially old white people.
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#36Discriminating based on race/sex is racist/sexist. It’s sad today that many people (racists and sexists) staunchly believe the opposite of the above when discrimination is going against the race or sex who “deserve” it, going so far as to call this kind of racism “anti-racism”. Worse, though, is that many others lack the moral clarity or courage to admit that they understand that discriminating based on race/sex is r…
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#37> Employees who have historically been entrenched in the majority are also entitled to protection under laws that were intended to assure equal treatment for women and racial minorities. To me this is obvious. A plain reading of EOCC employment discrimination regulations make this obvious. The mere fact that this is deemed as "novel" or newsworthy or intriguing is a poor reflection of society itself. Fortunately the…
law school grad here--generic white males are not afforded the same protections as protected classes
I can’t fire someone for being male or female. It’s not ok to fire someone for being male, or white. It’s not like only some religions are protected, while others aren’t.
You may want to check into a rebate on that law school tuition.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure. The biggest flaw in all this thinking is that an individual should suffer because an arbitrary grouping they're placed in historically has been abusive or advantaged, even if the individual is neither. And the groupings are usually flawed. For instance I'm an Arab, and have been discriminated against and even beaten for it. My ancestors are not Yale alumni ex-slave owner families, and I've never gotten a job fo…
> Yet I'm classified as "white", which is absurd and shows that racial groups are absurd, and not even a scientifically acknowledged phenomenon, but just a social construct Who's doing the classifying? Most of the time it's you checking a box in some application form If it's just a social construct, theoretically what's stopping you from identifying as a different race? An honor system? Since there is no legal assign…
Because that social construct doesn't involve self-selection. The construct is that society puts people into racial buckets.
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#39About damn time. The fact that people can talk casually about "old white men" or whatever shows that they are being racist, sexist and agephobic. Maybe there isn't the same historical power imbalance but factoring that kind of thing into hiring or firing decisions is still a deontological wrong. I hope he wins and I hope that everybody who has been discriminated out of a job because they are white/black/man/woman/nb/…
Sure. The biggest flaw in all this thinking is that an individual should suffer because an arbitrary grouping they're placed in historically has been abusive or advantaged, even if the individual is neither. And the groupings are usually flawed. For instance I'm an Arab, and have been discriminated against and even beaten for it. My ancestors are not Yale alumni ex-slave owner families, and I've never gotten a job fo…
Again though, these modern PC culture groupings that make reference to "white privilege" for all Caucasian looking people fall into the ignorantly ridiculous, or obtuse. I'm Eastern European, from the Balkans, my family and me were war refugees who never had much serious privilege in our lives but I've had people lecture me about white privilege as if I somehow have fault for an arbitrary genetic manifestation on the skin and am thus little different from any caricature of self indulgent wealthy, institutional white business men (not that there's anything specifically wrong with them either by the way).
Ironically, in my direct "privileged white" family, a paternal grandfather was a concentration camp inmate and a maternal great grandfather was an ostarbieter for the Nazis, deported to the Reich during the World War as.... a real-life 20th century slave.