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Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by NKosmatos »

Tepix wrote: post #110
NKosmatos wrote: post #53

Oh great, another source of "nice looking" .eu.org domains to be used by spammers and for phishing. I bet there will be many naive users (to put it lighlty) that will fall for a scam originating or using such domains :-(

What makes these domains more suitable for scams than other domains? The fact that they're free? The scams i am getting use low quality domain names hidden behind the domain they are faking.

The fact that you can use a legitimate looking subdomain without the need to hide it or fake it, like bank.eu.org in order to trick users that it's indeed a real domain coming from EU official site. We all know that to average internet users .org = organization so you can imagine how they will interpret any .eu.org domain :-)

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by dontbenebby »

meattle wrote: post #5

I’m involved with a URL shortener service. Service had to ban this domain as sub-domains from this domain seem to be loved by spammers/scammers to host their scams…

They should make a formal web standard that you should be able to prepend "preview." like tinyurl supported if people are going to keep using those things for tasks ranging from dumb marketing bullshit to full on attacking my computer.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by GTP »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #116
GTP wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Consider the scenario of a domain name owner dying and his relatives not caring/not knowing he/she owned a domain. With the current system the domain will be eventually available again. What alternative to you suggest?

How does a blockchain change this in any meaningful way?

I don't know how people that suggest using a blockchain would design or already designed the whole system, but maybe you know. If the owner looses access to it's private key is there any way to transfer or expire the domain? If not, you end up having domains that nobody can use.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by qweqwerwerwerwr »

dingleberry420 wrote: post #136
anunay03 wrote: post #130

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I am unsure about the speicfics but Handshake appears to burn the money paid. So that's fine. However most of the potential token supply (like 50%) was premined/airdropped to ssh keys of Github users with >15 followers.

Except that the money in this case is actually electricity and all you're doing is advancing global warming.

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Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by judge2020 »

dizhn wrote: post #70
furyg3 wrote: post #37

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Depends on how you think about it. You could say that you 'own' it but you have obligations (lease payments) or it will be seized. The same is true for property you 'own', if you don't pay your taxes or fail to manage the property, it will be seized.

The registration would show the name of the real owner. I don't think this is a good example.

That doesn't really change much though? It can still be taken from you for non-payment. What does it matter if some piece of paper says you "own" it if the courts will still allow someone to repossess it?

Also this depends on the state, some US states are set up where the bank owns the title until the borrower pays it off, and others have the borrower on the title from the start but with a lien on the car by the lender in case the borrower doesn't pay. https://realestatelicensewizard.com/title-theory-vs-lien-the...

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by skrebbel »

My former student association, BEST, ran on https://best.eu.org for over two decades. They also have best-eu.org as a mitigation strategy (they unfortunately didn't manage to grab best.eu back when .eu launched). IIRC the eu.org was always reliable so it's not been a problem. They do a lot of nontrivial IT, with all kinds of internal sites of varying quality, tons of email lists on a homecoded engine, and so on, and so forth. While I was involved (over a decade ago, mind), the domain was never a source for trouble.

I think you could do worse for a free subdomain provider.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by dontbenebby »

Gigachad wrote: post #47
permo-w wrote: post #35

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sats?

Very likely referring to “satoshis” which is a small amount of bitcoin.

> Very likely referring to “satoshis” which is a small amount of bitcoin.

Hackerfreund, nie vergessen: Drei können ein Geheimnis bewahren, wenn zwei davon John McAfee und Dan Kaminsky sind.

(Ich schalte jetzt wieder auf Englisch um, ich muss mich auf maschinelle Übersetzungen für synchrone Gespräche verlassen)

Do people still think Satoshi was a singular guy? I had a convo at a picnic about how it was probably a team and some very smart people acted like they hadn't thought of that, people who definitely had heard of Shamir's Secret Sharing and read Wired or whatever, so should have been able to connect the dots that maybe "Satoshi" was a set of people ,and one of them died or lost access to a key.

Here is the wayback archive of Wikipedia from that summer:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130208051024/https://en.wikipe...

And a current link to the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir%27s_Secret_Sharing

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by judge2020 »

happymellon wrote: post #81
sgjohnson wrote: post #72

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Not really. With property taxes, you lease the title to “your” land from the government.

Except that if you don't pay your taxes, they might not take your house. If you fail to pay your lease then they will reclaim that particular item.

> if you don't pay your taxes, they might not take your house.

At least in the states they absolutely do. It starts off as a tax lien which is then sold to whoever wants to buy it, so that the private sector handles actually reclaiming the land and re-listing it on the stock market.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by dontbenebby »

ibz wrote: post #24
meattle wrote: post #5

I’m involved with a URL shortener service. Service had to ban this domain as sub-domains from this domain seem to be loved by spammers/scammers to host their scams…

Free services attract spammers. No surprise. The "free" model is broken. Imagine how easy Twitter would get rid of spam accounts if they only charged a few sats per tweet.

>Imagine how easy Twitter would get rid of spam accounts if they only charged a few sats per tweet.

All I can do is imagine, since I interviewed to be an anti abuse UX researcher at Twitter and they decided to not hire anyone for the role, so I assume they do not see a need for such work since I was extremely professional and did a LOT of research prior.

I recall especially well because it was the same ±1 as the 2016 Turkish Coup[1][2][3], though I've lost some master passwords since then.

[1] Ich habe dir gesagt, was ich tun würde, dann habe ich es getan, hör auf, mich dafür zu bestrafen, wenn du das immer noch liest. [2] !geen [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by NoboruWataya »

mkmk3 wrote: post #25
iso1631 wrote: post #17

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Ownership rights vary from culture to culture and from country to country. Even in the US you don't get to own something forever, you get to own it until someone takes it off you to build a shopping mall for example. In most countries, leased property is often referred to as "owned", yet you have to keep paying over and over to renew that lease.

Pretty surprising to me if others agree, if you lease a car you dont own that car, do you?

Maybe not in common parlance, but if you lease a building for hundreds or thousands of years at a nominal rent, it's difficult to distinguish that from what you might call "true" ownership. Believe it or not that is how a lot of property is owned in some common law jurisdictions. A well-known example is Guinness's famous brewery in Dublin, which was leased in 1759 for 9,000 years at £45 per year.

Long-lease ownership is particularly common for apartments, where it is important that the owner of one apartment does not do anything to impair the structural integrity of other apartments or the building as a whole, and there may also be a common area that apartment owners are obliged to maintain. This means that you must impose certain covenants on the apartment owners and traditionally the only way to do that was through leasehold ownership.

Ownership is a very fuzzy concept and it is interesting to think about what are its hallmarks. There is no single correct answer, but I think a lot of lawyers tend to think of ownership as being a right "in rem" (ie, a right in respect of a thing, which is theoretically enforceable against any third party) rather than a right "in personam" (ie, a right against a particular person, which is generally not enforceable against third parties). In that regard, a leasehold is a right in rem whereas, for example, a licence to dwell on a property for a period of time would be a right in personam.

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