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EU reaches deal to make USB-C a common charger for most electronic devices

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Re: EU reaches deal to make USB-C a common charger for most electronic devices

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2024? There's still plenty of time for them to remove the port altogether and go with just MagSafe/Qi. Which they control, and they still can get fees from.

Trust me when I say that Apple will NEVER submit to this legislation, they will find every sort of obscure or arcane tricks to comply with it without actually doing it. It would set a precedent that legislating can change Apple's behaviour, which they clearly do not want to give. If they show the EU Parliament it's pointless to go after them, maybe they will not try to dismantle their monopoly on the App Store, which is clearly the next thing they will go after this.

Re: EU reaches deal to make USB-C a common charger for most electronic devices

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post #2

2024? There's still plenty of time for them to remove the port altogether and go with just MagSafe/Qi. Which they control, and they still can get fees from. Trust me when I say that Apple will NEVER submit to this legislation, they will find every sort of obscure or arcane tricks to comply with it without actually doing it. It would set a precedent that legislating can change Apple's behaviour, which they clearly do…

They already use USB-C in the iPad line. What I imagine as the most likely outcome is keeping USB-C as an option for charging (as it already is - you don't need to use MagSafe for charging any supported) and offering USB-C and/or wireless-only charging on phones. Being wireless-only on phones makes a lot of sense for ruggedness - a completely sealed iPhone could be easily used underwater.

Re: EU reaches deal to make USB-C a common charger for most electronic devices

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No more innovation: USB-C or else.

No more e-waste as well. And, as the regulation moved from micro USB to USB-C, it's clear that innovation is still possible, within regulations. That's also why you can't have jet-engine powered cars on the streets.

Re: EU reaches deal to make USB-C a common charger for most electronic devices

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The problem with USB-C is that you can't just pick up a device cable and power brick and expect them to work together. As an example, my Apple 96W USB-C charger doesn't charge my nintendo switch. The cable that came with my phone doesn't charge said fully Mac when used with the 96w charger. There is no indication of incompatibility between these devices until you realise they don't work. This is going back to the dc jack era where you end up with these [0] guys with various tips and dials that all meet the USB-C "standard" for a connector but don't work.

[0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/EFISH-Multifunctional-Transformer-2...

Re: EU reaches deal to make USB-C a common charger for most electronic devices

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post #5
post #3

No more innovation: USB-C or else.

No more e-waste as well. And, as the regulation moved from micro USB to USB-C, it's clear that innovation is still possible, within regulations. That's also why you can't have jet-engine powered cars on the streets.

Except for the millions of lightning cable already in prod?

Re: EU reaches deal to make USB-C a common charger for most electronic devices

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post #2

2024? There's still plenty of time for them to remove the port altogether and go with just MagSafe/Qi. Which they control, and they still can get fees from. Trust me when I say that Apple will NEVER submit to this legislation, they will find every sort of obscure or arcane tricks to comply with it without actually doing it. It would set a precedent that legislating can change Apple's behaviour, which they clearly do…

I don't think this is the right take.

- We already have reliable rumors that next-next iPhone (not this Sept, but next) will have USB-C port.

- Qi is not a standard they control like Lightning either way.

- Portless phone would be very unpopular (no fast charging), USB-C would be very popular. Apple would not choose to be unpopular just to watch the world hate them.

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