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Re: Carmakers feel chip crisis easing

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If this is the base, it'll just be a form of inflation and get lost pretty soon. Currently 1 hr of fast food labor buys you 2 gallons of gas. That's probably pretty close to what it was in 1996 also.

> That's probably pretty close to what it was in 1996 also. No, this is wrong. Minimum wage in 1996 was around 5$ Per hour and gas was below 1$ per gallon.

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Re: Carmakers feel chip crisis easing

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I have yet to pay MSRP for a new car. Twice, Ive gone in on Christmas Eve or New Years and make the guy wait around until he offers an employee discount. I’ve also gotten a discount (5% under MSRP) for being associated with a university which purchases in bulk from the given dealership. In one case I made the guy go into their system and show me I was buying it at cost to the dealership. People just don’t know how to…

As usual with this type of advice, it wouldn’t work that way if everyone approached dealerships like that.

And it shouldn't work like that. Haggling the price of a car simply shouldn't be something that is done. Every vehicle for sale should have the price listed on it. No dealer should expect more and folks that think it is too much should simply not buy.

Re: Carmakers feel chip crisis easing

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Idk where you live, but paying over MSRP is unnecessary where I live (tier 2 US city) unless you’re looking at a very high end car ($80k+). Most dealerships near me that priced gouged had to change course pretty quick. I bought 2 vehicles during the pandemic, both at the same dealership, both at MSRP. I think most people who pay over either don’t know other dealerships will negotiate to MSRP, or they just really want…

I have yet to pay MSRP for a new car. Twice, Ive gone in on Christmas Eve or New Years and make the guy wait around until he offers an employee discount. I’ve also gotten a discount (5% under MSRP) for being associated with a university which purchases in bulk from the given dealership. In one case I made the guy go into their system and show me I was buying it at cost to the dealership. People just don’t know how to…

We shouldn't be expected to haggle. Just expect everyone to be more honest about pricing - haggling makes it so folks compete and try to trick each other.

I'll add that at least one of these wasn't you haggling - you just happened to be associated with a place that gave you a discount. And you don't need dealerships to get such a thing.

Re: Carmakers feel chip crisis easing

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> Context: for ages, OEMs (the factory) have had a belief that Americans will not wait to buy a car. On the contrary, we recently added a 3rd car, and it ended up being a $4000 used Toyota Camry. My first choice would have been a Corolla or civic but none were available at a reasonable price, condition and mileage. Due to the well known rise in used car prices. It's in good enough condition and meets all the requirem…

I'm all for frugality, but with a newer car you're getting vastly improved crash safety. Over the years crash safety ratings have gotten tougher and tougher. You can browse the IIHS crash rating history for the Camry (or any other car) and you can often observe that when the IIHS introduces a new test, cars often perform poorly on it (high likelihood of injury) initially, but get better later on. https://www.iihs.org…

Ya but, for 25-40k!? Newer than 92 sure, but no need for new

Re: Carmakers feel chip crisis easing

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I ordered a new Porsche SUV in the middle of December. It just got offloaded from the ship at port today, so I should finally have it in a couple weeks. But it will be missing some of the electronics, such as the electric steering wheel adjustment due to chip shortages. My poor sister-in-law also thought she ordered a Toyota in December. But as it turns out, the dealership just took advantage of her and told her they…

> I ordered a new Porsche SUV in the middle of December I just ordered a 911. It's a July build scheduled to be in September (let's hope it actually arrives). I had a Macan S that got held up in port in 2019 for months (once it arrived). I am curious what was the 'above MSRP' that you paid when you ordered?

I’m actually paying MSRP without any mark up. I called around until I found a dealer who would be reasonable.

Re: Carmakers feel chip crisis easing

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post #114

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> Context: for ages, OEMs (the factory) have had a belief that Americans will not wait to buy a car. On the contrary, we recently added a 3rd car, and it ended up being a $4000 used Toyota Camry. My first choice would have been a Corolla or civic but none were available at a reasonable price, condition and mileage. Due to the well known rise in used car prices. It's in good enough condition and meets all the requirem…

I have a 2000 BMW 318ti beater car, the clear coat is peeling but mechanically fantastic. The crankshaft sensor was causing random misfires which I replaced. Otherwise all stock, it's fantastic and freeing. I can floor it and it doesn't go anywhere. upkeep is cheap, oil change when it asks me to. light compact car i've only done brakes once 6yrs ago and it looks new still... the only downside are the plastic parts wh…

> I can floor it and it doesn't go anywhere.

This is a difficult sentence to parse. Shouldn't you want the opposite from a car?

Re: Carmakers feel chip crisis easing

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I have a hobby around electronics, and as a side effect, I have been keeping CSVs with all the components from JLCPCB Parts library for the last 6 months. It appears that we're slowly crawling out of the pit: date,in_stock,out_of_stock,in_stock/total 2022-06-06,185324,173101,0.517051 2022-06-05,185116,173227,0.516589 2022-06-01,184845,173355,0.516039 2022-05-28,183850,173676,0.514228 2022-05-21,181201,175377,0.508167…

Did you also notice that certain electromechanical components like connectors (e.g. from Molex) had supply issues? I wonder what the reason for that was.

Re: Carmakers feel chip crisis easing

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post #114

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I have a 2000 BMW 318ti beater car, the clear coat is peeling but mechanically fantastic. The crankshaft sensor was causing random misfires which I replaced. Otherwise all stock, it's fantastic and freeing. I can floor it and it doesn't go anywhere. upkeep is cheap, oil change when it asks me to. light compact car i've only done brakes once 6yrs ago and it looks new still... the only downside are the plastic parts wh…

> I can floor it and it doesn't go anywhere. This is a difficult sentence to parse. Shouldn't you want the opposite from a car?

High powered vehicles have a tendency to cause sudden acceleration.

Sudden acceleration is a contributing factor in many vehicle crashes.

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