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Ask HN: Why are there no good note taking apps

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Re: Ask HN: Why are there no good note taking apps

#41

I use Quiver.app (macOS only). Here’s the original post about it on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11009996

Are you still using it / is it working fine? Around a year ago I switched to obsidian after using quiver for a few years, as it seemed development was stopped and no new bugfixes were coming in.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no good note taking apps

#42

The logical answer seems to be that the feature set you are looking for is not important to most people. If, as you say, making the app is not hard and you think these features will be popular, then there is a great opportunity for you to make the app yourself.

fair point, currently im not good enough though

Then why are you starting discussions at HN?

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no good note taking apps

#43
This list of requirements is long, specific, and narrow enough that it's really unlikely that what you're looking for exists, and if that did exist, it'd probably be extremely niche. At the end of the day, you'll probably have to build your own thing and be the sole maintainer or settle for an application that is not exactly what you want.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no good note taking apps

#44

Possibly because these apps are mostly unnecessary? I just open a new terminal tab, and use vim. If I might need to share the note with someone, open an email draft in gmail.

For me the most important feature of note taking apps is auto-sync. I want to be able to take a note on my phone and then immediately access that note without any fuss from a computer.

I just use sync-thing for this, it just works flawlessly.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no good note taking apps

#45

I've never seen any really great notetaking app, other than Obsidian. I don't know why the open source community can't match it yet, but it probably will eventually. I suspect it's because notetaking is essentially 100% UI and features, There are not many new algorithms involved, and but you need a good markdown edit component. Also, cross platform is hard, until Flutter game along most of the ways to do it right inv…

Isn't Obsidian open source tho?

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no good note taking apps

#46

I've never seen any really great notetaking app, other than Obsidian. I don't know why the open source community can't match it yet, but it probably will eventually. I suspect it's because notetaking is essentially 100% UI and features, There are not many new algorithms involved, and but you need a good markdown edit component. Also, cross platform is hard, until Flutter game along most of the ways to do it right inv…

Isn't Obsidian open source tho?

Most/all of the extensions are. Obsidian itself is very much closed.

It's almost like AgentDVR, one of those things everyone thinks is open but isn't.

Maybe because the quality is so high, with so few obnoxious craps added on, that nobody can believe it's proprietary in todays industry.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no good note taking apps

#47
I use two note taking apps, Obsidian and Nebo, each for their own use case.

Obsidian has everything your needs are, you can setup syncthing to sync your notes across multiple devices. Everything is a .md file and organized using folders and it has great plugin support. Though ability to publish from inside the app is locked behind a subscription. You can always use pandoc to just convert the md files, there probably are some plugins that try to do that. Also i love how lightweight it is.

Second is Nebo, Nebo is for handwritten notes usecase. This isn't something many people really have a usecase for, But Nebo has AWESOME handwriting -> searchable text conversion, specially for Math! And publishing things is as a easy as clicking publish. And it has google drive/drop integration for sync (I'd rather use syncthing but the android app doesn't expose the stored files).

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no good note taking apps

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I use Obsidian both on mobile and desktop. It is all markdown. I sync my notes to a private github repo. I think this would fit your requirements.

thats a good idea. How do you deal with publishing specific notes?

Specific notes are their own MD files. I use Working Copy on my phone to push a commit, and use Git Desktop on my computer.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no good note taking apps

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Note-taking app [1] founder here. This is a question I hear almost every day, and there's a good reason for that. Note-taking is personal. Everyone wants a note-taking app with just the right features for their personal workflow – whether it's open source, end-to-end encrypted, has handwriting support etc. That's also one of the reasons why the note-taking app and personal knowledge management app market is so saturated – there are so many different ways you can create an app.

Unfortunately, one of the most commonly asked combinations of such features, especially here on Hacker News, is an open-source note-taking app which is end-to-end encrypted but also offers all the great benefits of having a multi-account web editor with shareable notes. Oh and don't forget, it can't use Electron, but it has to be native across all platforms. In theory this sounds amazing – all the performance, privacy and security, with the benefits sharing. And with it being open source you can have the peace of mind that the product will be around for many years to come.

Imagine creating your own note-taking app. In practice it's almost impossible for any new startup to build an app like this that's so feature complete from the get-go. For it to become revenue-generating and a sustainable business so you can work on it full-time, most products will focus on *one* of the features mentioned above and do it really well. For us, we initially focused on markdown, cross-platform, portability and instant sharing of your notes with others.

I don't think there will ever be a one-size-fits-all app for note-taking and knowledge management – just like there isn't one in reality – everyone likes to use different methods to write whether it's a notebook, bullet journal, notecard or scrap of paper. Focus on finding a product that you like the founders and community behind and that meets a couple of your most important requirements; then you can support them and offer feedback to help them to build an amazing app.

[1] https://supernotes.app

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