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Re: California DMV Loophole Allowed Jobs to Drive Sans-Plates

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Post by Zimahl »

jellicle wrote: post #68

Except there's no loophole. Registering the vehicle at purchase (or at beginning of lease) is required. Cal DMV will then send you plates. At which time your paper stickers expire. Besides, his vehicle wasn't displaying the temporary plates either. Look, MacObserver and all the rest of you fanboys: Steve Jobs just decided to disobey the law. There's no loophole. There's just a guy who thought the lines of his car wer…

This is a lot like David Letterman and his numerous speeding tickets he would get in Connecticut. He's rich and a $200 fine doesn't mean the same to him as it does to us. That's what he'd spend on an expensive NYC lunch. The same goes for Jobs.

I read the article thinking it was ridiculous. Adam Carolla, who has a podcast I listen to regularly, complains all the time about the 'chicken s' tickets he gets for not having a plate on the front of some of his sports cars. I can't imagine the tickets you would get for not having a rear plate. Every time a cop looked in your direction you'd get pulled over. Seems like more hassle than it's worth.

Jobs should've just gotten the California legislature to issue an iPlate - something designed by Jobs/Apple that looked good and the proceeds went to something worthwhile, like an Apple-approved charity.

Re: California DMV Loophole Allowed Jobs to Drive Sans-Plates

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Post by hugh3 »

YuriNiyazov wrote: post #108
hugh3 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Including getting my licence renewed? I've been putting off going to the DMV for nearly a year now. My licence is very, very expired. If I can join AAA to avoid this, I definitely will.

I just got my CA license last week. The whole procedure, from showing up to leaving, took less than 1 hour. Maybe the claremont office in oakland is somehow different than others.

And "less than 1 hour" is supposed to be a good thing now?

I used to complain about the RTA (the NSW equivalent) in Sydney. But I have to admit that last time I showed up to get my New South Wales licence renewed, I was in and out with a licence in my hand (printed on the spot) in about fifteen minutes.

Re: California DMV Loophole Allowed Jobs to Drive Sans-Plates

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Post by blhack »

getsat wrote: post #120
blhack wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your post is condescending because it assumes that mine is rooted in jealousy or anger, or that your version of affluence is something that haven't already attained.

Sorry. I should have said "one" not "you", and "one's self" instead of "yourself". Most people seem to get angry/jealous when they see affluence instead of having a more pragmatic reaction. My version of affluence is being in the top 1% that the 99% hates. I'm not quite there yet. :)

Okay, not to talk down to you, but something that you'll eventually learn is that the really "affluent" people will rarely ever tell you, and they'll never say something about helping you get to their level unless you ask them.

The "maybe you should learn to hustle and someday you can be like me!" thing comes from lack of self-confidence; the term for this has historically been "nouveau riche".

I've linked this many times, but read it: http://lesswrong.com/lw/154/why_real_men_wear_pink/

If you're talking about automobiles as a social signaling mechanism, "real men drive Audis."

Not to be an outright prick here, but "learn to hustle like me, [plebian]" definitely doesn't come across as affluent.

And if we're talking about automobiles, the two wealthiest people I know drive cars that cost them less than $20,000. One is a founder of a company that you use every day but might not have heard of, the other is the CEO of a company you definitely use every day, and have definitely heard of.

Re: California DMV Loophole Allowed Jobs to Drive Sans-Plates

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Post by atmega10 »

jarek wrote: post #115
atmega10 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is an "insanely fast borderline-supercar" good for when all it does is get you to the next red light faster (unless you take it to the track)? I'm genuinely curious. I found that when I drive (relatively relaxed) I tend to be waiting at the next intersection next to the guy who changed lanes multiple times and raced around others. I'd rather spend my money to upgrade to a bigger boat.

What is a bigger boat good for? I'm not a vehicle guy, but a lot of people have different fascinations.

I guess what I don't understand is the point of buying a faster (and I guess in this case insanely fast) car when you're still bound by the rules of the road. Speed limits are everywhere, and even if you accelerate much quicker than me, more often than not we're just going to meet again at the next red light.

Re: California DMV Loophole Allowed Jobs to Drive Sans-Plates

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Post by getsat »

blhack wrote: post #123
getsat wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry. I should have said "one" not "you", and "one's self" instead of "yourself". Most people seem to get angry/jealous when they see affluence instead of having a more pragmatic reaction. My version of affluence is being in the top 1% that the 99% hates. I'm not quite there yet. :)

Okay, not to talk down to you , but something that you'll eventually learn is that the really "affluent" people will rarely ever tell you, and they'll never say something about helping you get to their level unless you ask them. The "maybe you should learn to hustle and someday you can be like me!" thing comes from lack of self-confidence; the term for this has historically been "nouveau riche". I've linked this many…

Sorry you feel I was talking down to you. I wasn't. I'm neither in a position to nor is it something I actually do.

My suggestion was that outrage is not the correct response to affluence; admiration is. Driving a $100,000 car is not unreasonable.

I don't lack self confidence, I simply like to encourage people to hustle. I do this with my friends and family constantly. I'm not rich, but I will be some day because I have the attitude and the hustle.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. If I wanted to be condescending initially, I would have replied with a more 4chan-esque "cry more, poorfag" or something along those lines.

Re: California DMV Loophole Allowed Jobs to Drive Sans-Plates

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Post by blhack »

getsat wrote: post #125
blhack wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, not to talk down to you , but something that you'll eventually learn is that the really "affluent" people will rarely ever tell you, and they'll never say something about helping you get to their level unless you ask them. The "maybe you should learn to hustle and someday you can be like me!" thing comes from lack of self-confidence; the term for this has historically been "nouveau riche". I've linked this many…

Sorry you feel I was talking down to you. I wasn't. I'm neither in a position to nor is it something I actually do. My suggestion was that outrage is not the correct response to affluence; admiration is. Driving a $100,000 car is not unreasonable. I don't lack self confidence, I simply like to encourage people to hustle. I do this with my friends and family constantly. I'm not rich, but I will be some day because I h…

>I simply like to encourage people to hustle. I do this with my friends and family constantly.

Have you ever asked them if they think this comes across as condescending of you?

As far as you lacking self confidence. Maybe not, but to "affluent" people, that's how it looks.

You don't have to apologize, you didn't hurt my feelings or anything, I'm just pointing this out to you so that I can help you work past it. Keep at it, and eventually you'll get the self-confidence you need to not make stupid remarks about cars.

(See how that sounds? Condescending, eh?)

Re: California DMV Loophole Allowed Jobs to Drive Sans-Plates

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Post by ticktock »

atmega10 wrote: post #124
jarek wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is a bigger boat good for? I'm not a vehicle guy, but a lot of people have different fascinations.

I guess what I don't understand is the point of buying a faster (and I guess in this case insanely fast) car when you're still bound by the rules of the road. Speed limits are everywhere, and even if you accelerate much quicker than me, more often than not we're just going to meet again at the next red light.

It's an ego thing - something Steve had no lack of.

Re: California DMV Loophole Allowed Jobs to Drive Sans-Plates

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Post by getsat »

blhack wrote: post #126
getsat wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry you feel I was talking down to you. I wasn't. I'm neither in a position to nor is it something I actually do. My suggestion was that outrage is not the correct response to affluence; admiration is. Driving a $100,000 car is not unreasonable. I don't lack self confidence, I simply like to encourage people to hustle. I do this with my friends and family constantly. I'm not rich, but I will be some day because I h…

>I simply like to encourage people to hustle. I do this with my friends and family constantly. Have you ever asked them if they think this comes across as condescending of you? As far as you lacking self confidence. Maybe not, but to "affluent" people, that's how it looks. You don't have to apologize, you didn't hurt my feelings or anything, I'm just pointing this out to you so that I can help you work past it. Keep…

How would encouraging people in their personal and business pursuits ever be condescending? It doesn't imply inferiority.

> I'm just pointing this out to you so that I can help you work past it

This implies inferiority or defectiveness and could be considered condescending.

Re: California DMV Loophole Allowed Jobs to Drive Sans-Plates

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Post by blhack »

getsat wrote: post #128
blhack wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I simply like to encourage people to hustle. I do this with my friends and family constantly. Have you ever asked them if they think this comes across as condescending of you? As far as you lacking self confidence. Maybe not, but to "affluent" people, that's how it looks. You don't have to apologize, you didn't hurt my feelings or anything, I'm just pointing this out to you so that I can help you work past it. Keep…

How would encouraging people in their personal and business pursuits ever be condescending? It doesn't imply inferiority. > I'm just pointing this out to you so that I can help you work past it This implies inferiority or defectiveness and could be considered condescending.

Because you're doing so under the assumption that your lifestyle is something that other people would desire.

>This implies inferiority or defectiveness and could be considered condescending.

That's the point.

Re: California DMV Loophole Allowed Jobs to Drive Sans-Plates

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Post by julian37 »

Zimahl wrote: post #121
jellicle wrote: post #68

Except there's no loophole. Registering the vehicle at purchase (or at beginning of lease) is required. Cal DMV will then send you plates. At which time your paper stickers expire. Besides, his vehicle wasn't displaying the temporary plates either. Look, MacObserver and all the rest of you fanboys: Steve Jobs just decided to disobey the law. There's no loophole. There's just a guy who thought the lines of his car wer…

This is a lot like David Letterman and his numerous speeding tickets he would get in Connecticut. He's rich and a $200 fine doesn't mean the same to him as it does to us. That's what he'd spend on an expensive NYC lunch. The same goes for Jobs. I read the article thinking it was ridiculous. Adam Carolla, who has a podcast I listen to regularly, complains all the time about the 'chicken s' tickets he gets for not havi…

Some European countries impose traffic fines relative to the offender's income.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-01-11/news/17823924_1_mph-li...

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