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Tell HN: I used the same computer since 2007 (with minor upgrades)

#1
With all the news about the Apple M2 and the people excited to sunset their couple years old computers, I feel compelled to share my reality (and that of many others outside the HN bubble).

I'm a 27 years old software developer from Brazil. The computer in question was assembled in 2007 from parts that were mostly bought abroad (and then gifted to me) by a wealthier relative that was visiting. That's a key point: the currency exchange rates and the import taxes make electronics out of reach for the common folks.

That was an AMD2+ motherboard, 4GB of DDR2, a 5400 RPM rust spinner, and a Phenom X4 coupled with an ATI 4870.

Although the household was never in a dire situation financially, I had always been taught by example to fix things and keep using them for as long as possible. Even back in elementary school times I would troubleshoot computer issues myself and brush off dust from the components.

Yes, there have been hardware failures since 2007: two HDDs died (about 6 years lifespan for each), the 4870 died (but I extended its life for one more year with the bake-it-in-the-oven trick), one DIMM failure, a PSU blowout and a CPU cooler bracket mechanical failure.

All replacements that had to be purchased would cost me a significant amount of money. HDDs and PSUs were not that expensive, but GPUs were out of reach. When that DIMM died in 2018, I purchased an used and dusty DDR2 replacement kit off AliExpress.

After the pandemic hit and I got my first proper (remote) job in 2020, I splurged and replaced some components: a hand-me-down GPU from a wealthier friend (I had been using the onboard graphics since the 4870 died), an AMD3 motherboard, a Phenom II X4 and some DDR3, all used and from AliExpress.

The monitor, a 22" TFT panel from Samsung, is still kicking since 2007 with a couple of dead pixels. Same goes for the mouse, manufactured by an unknown Chinese brand, and a membrane keyboard that I completely disassembled and scrubbed clean under a running faucet.

Even with my career finally taking off (I'm due to complete undergraduate Computer Science this year) I don't see myself doing major upgrades/purchases any soon.

When was the last time you gave something extra life instead of throwing it away?

Re: Tell HN: I used the same computer since 2007 (with minor upgrades)

#2
Clothing most recently, I took about 5 articles of outdoor wear in for repair through a 3rd party and Patagonias service (Patagonia expensive, but I'd have had to pay almost $1000 to replace what they've fixed for me for free over the years)

Tech-wise, my "home server" is a business dell whatever bought second hand, main personal computer came from a startup liquidation, the computer that replaced went to a relative, and I've been able to re-home several routers/modems I saved from other folks apartment cleanouts (though the ones I have left are bumping against isp and speed limitations unfortunately).

I'm also looking forward to buying out my work MacBook for cheap when I get to 3 years, since it's rather beefy.

Also a swe, but in the US

Re: Tell HN: I used the same computer since 2007 (with minor upgrades)

#3
> When was the last time you gave something extra life instead of throwing it away?

I appreciate your story and wish more people would take it to heart. I almost always just resurrect hand-me-downs from family and friends (I know enough people with more money than sense so it's pretty easy for me to pull off).

Re: Tell HN: I used the same computer since 2007 (with minor upgrades)

#6
The recent Raspberry Pi models (4/400) have the potential to really expand computing globally. They're the first ones that have enough CPU power and RAM to do virtually everything you'd ever want to do with a desktop computer, with the exception of playing the latest games (and perhaps ML? I don't know much about it), but they cost $45 and run from a USB power supply.

It's amazing how much you can do with them.

Re: Tell HN: I used the same computer since 2007 (with minor upgrades)

#7

The recent Raspberry Pi models (4/400) have the potential to really expand computing globally. They're the first ones that have enough CPU power and RAM to do virtually everything you'd ever want to do with a desktop computer, with the exception of playing the latest games (and perhaps ML? I don't know much about it), but they cost $45 and run from a USB power supply. It's amazing how much you can do with them.

>with the exception of … perhaps ML? I don't know much about it. It's amazing how much you can do with them.

Indeed. Cloud VMs can fill in the needs unmet by the Pi—the amateur ML hacker generally only needs high performance computing resources infrequently enough that renting them on-demand from cloud providers is an extremely economical solution.

Re: Tell HN: I used the same computer since 2007 (with minor upgrades)

#8
I would have kept the same hardware forever too, but for some reason my tools seem to take more and more resources every year.

Silly example is gmail, which loaded in 1s on my 2011 MacBook Pro when new, if it load it again today (I just tried) it takes 35 seconds before I can click anything.

Another might be everyone’s favourite software to hate on: Teams.

On my 2011 MacBook Pro: fans squealing, UI of the OS becomes unresponsive, beachballs. But chat/video software of the era was not so heavy.

What annoys me is that this machine is supposedly faster than yours, (i7, 8GB, SATA SSD) but the capability of the machine has been whittled away over time.

Re: Tell HN: I used the same computer since 2007 (with minor upgrades)

#9
I'm the third owner of my bike, it was a high end road bike in the mid 80s and has been used quite heavily since then by all three owners. The wear parts have of course been replaced in some cases many times, but most of the other non-drive components are original. It was converted to a fixed gear in the late 90s which saved a lot of rim wear, but I just recently had to finally replace the rims. I reused the front hub though, it's probably been rebuilt a dozen times by now.

I don't really track miles so it's hard to estimate but I'm on my sixth set of tires with it and I know the previous owner did at least as much.

Re: Tell HN: I used the same computer since 2007 (with minor upgrades)

#10
That feels old!

I still have my core2duo system, since approximately 2008 - it still runs great and works perfectly. I am mainly running Linux on it as a "build" server for a project.

I also have a J1900 for the past 10 years or so, running a couple VMs on it - not too performant to run major stuff, but works great. I've used this system as my main machine until 2020 (early covid) and upgraded to something way stronger.

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