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Post by pwaring »

Ideka wrote: post #8
sdafssd wrote: post #2

You said "GnuLix" in the original subject line. Gag. Awful, awful. Lix = licks = round appendages. Linux = Line-ucks = Linus = Torvalds. Don't shorten it please. As for Stallman- GNU has a branding problem. Sticking it in front of Linux may bring GNU up but it will bring down Linux. GNU should be called Free. Free has better connotations. Free Linux? Well that is just unnecessary. All Linux is free. Only those wishin…

"Line-ucks"? Isn't it Lee-nucks?

Both are listed as valid pronunciations according to the Oxford English Dictionary:

http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/251510

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Post by gaius »

lukejduncan wrote: post #9
gaius wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly when Linus first uploaded Linux to an FTP site he called it "Freeix". Some random person came along later and renamed the directory.

That's an interesting bit of trivia! References?

http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-01-05-00... is one, tho' I can't remember where I first heard it.

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Post by sdafssd »

Ideka wrote: post #8
sdafssd wrote: post #2

You said "GnuLix" in the original subject line. Gag. Awful, awful. Lix = licks = round appendages. Linux = Line-ucks = Linus = Torvalds. Don't shorten it please. As for Stallman- GNU has a branding problem. Sticking it in front of Linux may bring GNU up but it will bring down Linux. GNU should be called Free. Free has better connotations. Free Linux? Well that is just unnecessary. All Linux is free. Only those wishin…

"Line-ucks"? Isn't it Lee-nucks?

Ur right. It has been a while since I heard him say it: http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux...

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Post by rmc »

This is a misleading story & headline. Nowhere in the article does it have this proposed "gnulix" term. I saw that this was linked to gnu.org and I thought that GNU had changed their minds, but no, GnuLix is a proposal of tinkerbrick, not GNU.

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Post by viraptor »

nobody314 wrote: post #6
asolove wrote: post #3

Proposal: GNU ships a working operating system that someone not a member of GNU wants to use, or they give this nonsense up. "But RMS made the C toolchain work" you say. Great, and lots of electric engineers made my computer work, but their names aren't on the operating system, because that's a different level of work. Everything we've seen from GNU shows that RMS can make wonderful tools for his own use, but not a p…

Is there a distribution of Linux built with say Intel's icc compiler and using their standard library? Then we can remove emacs and have InteLinux

You'd also need mawk instead of gawk, imake instead of make, etc. etc. - there's loads of those little programs which don't have 100% compatible replacements.

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Post by skeptical »

asolove wrote: post #3

Proposal: GNU ships a working operating system that someone not a member of GNU wants to use, or they give this nonsense up. "But RMS made the C toolchain work" you say. Great, and lots of electric engineers made my computer work, but their names aren't on the operating system, because that's a different level of work. Everything we've seen from GNU shows that RMS can make wonderful tools for his own use, but not a p…

Not that I agree with RMS's naming insistence, but you cannot refer to the kernel as 'the operative system'. The C toolchain is the tip of the iceberg, there's X, multiple desktop environments, the core utils, VMs and programming language interpreters, etc. They all ship in your operative system, and just to put it in perspective, even open/libre office alone represents a larger bulk of code than the kernel.

I'm fine with the name 'linux'. But we should indeed acknowledge that we call it Linux mostly for historical reasons, not because it's the most fair name.

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Post by mindslight »

asolove wrote: post #3

Proposal: GNU ships a working operating system that someone not a member of GNU wants to use, or they give this nonsense up. "But RMS made the C toolchain work" you say. Great, and lots of electric engineers made my computer work, but their names aren't on the operating system, because that's a different level of work. Everything we've seen from GNU shows that RMS can make wonderful tools for his own use, but not a p…

It's not just the "C toolchain", it's the whole userland. GNU is most of that higher level user experience; Linux is the lower layer you mentioned.

(Then again, I might be more inclined to say I run "GNU" if the FSF wasn't so damn ossified.)

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