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I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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One strike and you're out rule works perfectly fine for me. If they think they can abuse my attention with stuff like this, I immediately uninstall and go on with my life.

I've been struggling with the Uber app and Uber Eats who has been sending me ads which I found no way to disable. My problem is that I do want notifications for when my driver has arrived.

Uber Eat does different channel for notification though. Mine is set exactly as you described.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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post #103

Heh. I was woken up by an Uber greenwashing marketing notification. All notifications off (and in any case if I am waiting for a Uber I have the app on waiting for the countdown and I don't need the notifications anyway). If there were a viable competitor to them where I live, I would have deleted the app altogether and given them a 1-star rating. Apple's policies ban the use of push notifications for marketing purpo…

> Apple's policies ban the use of push notifications for marketing purposes Not anymore, this was rolled back a year or two ago unfortunately. About the same time Apple themselves started using push notifications for marketing.

I hadn't noticed, thanks for letting us now. Very poor decision (both rolling back the policy and spamming us with push notifications).

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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Apple kept a notification badge on my settings icon for Apple Pay until I finally went in and opted out of it. Under the guise of “Finish setting up your iPhone”. It’s not a big deal I guess, but annoying and obviously promotional. Now I partially associate Apple with intentionally annoying.

Apple’s big push into services has been slowly but surely chipping away at the generally pleasant experience of using their platforms. The price of entry was always high, but once you were through the door you were never really upsold. Not so anymore. Numerous nags in settings to buy AppleCare or start a trial of some service or other. The App Store is particularly egregious: as well as search ads there are now occas…

The entire point of Apple, in my mind, has been their focus on user experience. It's weird seeing them lose their way every now and then. I wonder what's going on internally because no sane designer would sign off on some of these ideas.

The App Store on my iphone is only useful for installing apps I've searched for externally. Browsing categories is buried as a search suggestion?

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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post #10

I have a pretty good idea on how to fix this (and many similar) problems: "hibernate app" option. Its a new app state where app icon icon has some mark (like being semi-grayed out) and all the background app services are disabled (tracking, promotional popups, periodic wakeups, etc...). The app is only un-hibernated if user explicitly clicks on it, it cannot do it by itself. The app can be hibernated by long-press me…

On Android, Shelter (available on F-Droid [0]) is a close implementation of this. Apps installed in the "shelter" (read: Android work profile) can be automatically frozen when not in use, and launcher shortcuts can be created to temporarily unfreeze and use the app. This doesn't require root, and frozen apps cannot run services, send notifications, or anything really. As a bonus, for the most part they don't even show up as installed when frozen and are completely isolated from main profile apps. The filesystem is separate however, but you can use an app that allows file sending via share contexts such as Phone Saver [1] to send files between your main profile and your shelter profile.

[0]: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.typeblog.shelter/

[1]: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/link.standen.michael.phonesa...

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One strike and you're out rule works perfectly fine for me. If they think they can abuse my attention with stuff like this, I immediately uninstall and go on with my life.

I've been struggling with the Uber app and Uber Eats who has been sending me ads which I found no way to disable. My problem is that I do want notifications for when my driver has arrived.

That's exactly why I stopped using Uber. It was annoying to not get notification when drivers arrive, but there's no way I'm giving them free access to make my pocket vibrate all day long.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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post #23

My rule is: if I get a single notification that I find useless, I'll immediately disable that notification channel (I'm on Android; I'm not sure if iOS has a concept of channel-specific settings) for that app. Even if the channel can include useful notifications, as the article discusses. If the app doesn't bother to categorize its notifications into channels at all, I turn off its notifications entirely, and I won't…

This is also my policy - except: Uber just sent me a notification to celebrate pride month with Uber (by booking a car??). I don’t see how to turn off these promotional notifications but I need my Uber notifications so I’m aware when my driver is outside. I’m still not sure if I should block all Uber notifications.

You can choose to get text messages instead for ride notifications. I do that and don't get any spam from them.

Still get the stupid "try 1 month free trial" popups whenever I book a ride though, can't see how to turn those off.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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that's one of the reason i got rid of my samsung phone: it used to send random nonsense notifications, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.

it would keep asking me to let samsung use my phone's cpu for whatever stuff they're doing, send multiple weather notification during the day (i didn't ever ask for them and now it's my job to go hunt for the appropriate setting to change to disable them? go f@@k yourself, you just lost a customer) and many more that i'm now thankfully forgetting.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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post #131

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Those rules only work until you're required to have such app installed to do, for example, credit card payments.

Which can be solved by finding a competitor with less abusive practices.

Not in a monopoly or oligopoly, which is the common case in markets with high barriers to entry.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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post #23

My rule is: if I get a single notification that I find useless, I'll immediately disable that notification channel (I'm on Android; I'm not sure if iOS has a concept of channel-specific settings) for that app. Even if the channel can include useful notifications, as the article discusses. If the app doesn't bother to categorize its notifications into channels at all, I turn off its notifications entirely, and I won't…

I follow the same rule. But I will also then go one star review it. I will also one-star review any app that prompts me to review it by first asking me if I like it (sneaky sneaky!)

For some reason I had never thought of doing that.

Thanks, I will do so from now on!

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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If an app gives me spammy promotional notifications, it either A) gets uninstalled (if I don't particularly care about the app), B) gets a 1-star review with a clear comment about the notifications, or C) all of the above.

The app I use to pay for parking spots suddenly gave me a notification once, apparently to try and get me to park my car more often or something. I gave it a one-star review, never saw one of those notifications again :-) (Which reminds me, I should revise that review.)

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