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I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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I was saying this yesterday, LinkedIn, as an example, sends me the most inane notifications as do many apps trying to steal my time. I pay LinkedIn 100 dollars a month, those notifications should serve me, not the other way around. I really don't care about some low substance content written by someone who I'm neither connected with nor follow.

I haven't been on LinkedIn for 15 years and it hasn't affected my career at all. Most people don't realize that you actually don't need LinkedIn.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

#92

I was saying this yesterday, LinkedIn, as an example, sends me the most inane notifications as do many apps trying to steal my time. I pay LinkedIn 100 dollars a month, those notifications should serve me, not the other way around. I really don't care about some low substance content written by someone who I'm neither connected with nor follow.

You pay $100 a month for LinkedIn? Unless you're a recruiter I'm really wondering what the value is?

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

#93

I have turned off all notifications, no sound on my phone either. If I happen to look at the phone while someone is calling, good - otherwise I'll call them back or write them.

That's a really interesting strategy. Thanks for the tip. What about emergency calls? But then I just realized, those are extremely uncommon.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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My rule is: if I get a single notification that I find useless, I'll immediately disable that notification channel (I'm on Android; I'm not sure if iOS has a concept of channel-specific settings) for that app. Even if the channel can include useful notifications, as the article discusses. If the app doesn't bother to categorize its notifications into channels at all, I turn off its notifications entirely, and I won't…

Useless notifications is a super dangerous game to play, since one lame "McDonalds has 25% off" *cough: Uber Eats* results in notifications being turned off and poorer outcomes for all parties from that moment on.

They are relying on 90% of people not knowing how to get to the notification settings. It's not dangerous, it's A/B tested...

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

#96

I highly recommend installing Buzzkill for those on Android. In addition to built-in per-channel settings, Buzzkill allows you to create rules to auto-dismiss or do certain actions depending on the title or description of the notification, using basic matching or regex. It also gives you a nicer view of notification history, with more days and scrubbing across time if you ever want to revisit past notifications. http…

Buzzkill is a godsent and should be an OS feature. Setting rules on notifications, automated actions and a history has reduced the deluge of useless distractions for me.

The app is proprietary and closed source though; it also uses Accessibility access. This might be a turn off for some threat models.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

#97
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I have a pretty good idea on how to fix this (and many similar) problems: "hibernate app" option. Its a new app state where app icon icon has some mark (like being semi-grayed out) and all the background app services are disabled (tracking, promotional popups, periodic wakeups, etc...). The app is only un-hibernated if user explicitly clicks on it, it cannot do it by itself. The app can be hibernated by long-press me…

I have never looked into Shortcuts on iOS, but I wonder if something similar could be implemented there.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

#98
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I've noticed this in social networks as well. If you don't get enough transactional notifications for a while they start making up fake ones like Twitter's "in case you missed this Tweet", Facebook's "[someone] posted for the first time in a while", all the while lighting up the notifications badge. Leads to a "boy who cried wolf" scenario in which I stop trusting notifications entirely and just ignore them, possibly…

That's because the social networks employ armies of industrial psychologists with PhDs who figured out that notifications generate a little squirt of dopamine, and are thus addictive, as opioids are just an approximation thereof. That's why they won't give you an option to turn off notifications, just as they won't let you take control of the ordering of your feed, or offer RSS feeds for it.

There is literally nothing on social networks worth notification. Disable them already.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

#99

Canadians can report this https://fightspam.gc.ca/eic/site/030.nsf/eng/home CASL isn’t just for emails, it’s for all forms of spam you didn’t opt into

Off-topic, but I haven't seen a .NSF URL in the wild for a long time. Apparently, Canada is fighting spam with Lotus/Domino!

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

#100

I wish iOS had some "allow notifications from this app for x minutes" option similar to "share location once". Uber is a good example of an app I would like to see notifications from, when using their service, but disabled them completely. Uber abuses this feature to show ad banners for scooters or food when I am not using their app and it's not even open (as in not present on the open applications list).

I've used Uber in several cities, so I get repetitive notifications targeting their different markets. Like irrelevant lunch discounts in other cities.

They also have been sending me notifications for an Argentinan soccer-themed anti harassment campaign every couple of days.

I went through their videos completely and the notification keeps showing. Its done in such a vertical video letterboxed in a horizontal video format that's hard to watch.

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