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Re: Restarting my career after motherhood

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

jseban wrote: post #82
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #75

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Huh? It has to work out that or the human race dies out. I guess you could have a few couples who have a lot of kids instead, but developed societies are really adverse to that. It is “natural” in the sense that we wouldn’t be here to talk about it if it wasn’t the case.

> Huh? It has to work out that or the human race dies out. I guess you could have a few couples who have a lot of kids instead, but developed societies are really adverse to that. Obviously the human race somehow made it until we created developed societies. I think you are confusing survival of the human race with survival of our current pension system. Who knows if it's really better or worse to suddenly allow ever…

It’s natural only in the sense of a selection bias: we wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t so. Men aren’t the limiting resource here, but if women start having less than 2.1 kids on average, we eventually just disappear. This is just math, not related to economics, morality, or ideology.

Re: Restarting my career after motherhood

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Post by Noumenon72 »

bunbunbun wrote: post #17

Mothers returning to work should get the same ‘service’ considerations that military veterans get

I could see this incentivizing someone to have a baby solely to get a boost on their applications, which I suppose is what you want. But it shouldn't be as big a boost as serving active duty in a war. I wonder how much of a boost the zero-point preference from https://www.fedshirevets.gov/job-seekers/veterans/veterans-p... would add? It doesn't add to your application score, but it counts as a tiebreaker between people with the same score.

Re: Restarting my career after motherhood

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Post by jseban »

magicalist wrote: post #112
jseban wrote: post #77

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Yeah, I'm constantly surprised that nobody every says this. With women entering the work force, now the family as a whole needs to work almost twice as much, as before when women were house wives. That's a pretty hefty price to pay for everyone, to save those women who were unlucky to have a cruel or unfair husband. I don't know if it's possible to say if it's "worth it" or not, but this independence sure does not co…

> With women entering the work force What year is it again? > That's a pretty hefty price to pay for everyone, to save those women who were unlucky to have a cruel or unfair husband. Uh, I don't think that's the trade off here. > I don't know if it's possible to say if it's "worth it" or not, but this independence sure does not come for free. When one option is to go full Taliban, it's actually pretty easy to say if…

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Re: Restarting my career after motherhood

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Post by lotsofpulp »

knorker wrote: post #14
spyremeown wrote: post #9

I strongly disagree with "I remained flat" statement. I mean, you were taking care of your children, weren't you? If you do it right (imho, if you even just try to do it right), it's the biggest accomplishment one can do. I understand how frustrating it must be to stay professionally flat compared to your peers. We absolutely should celebrate people taking their time off to literally raise the next humans, instead we…

Parenthood is by far the most subsidized personal choice in the universe. Let's not pretend it's not. Some countries give more than a year paid parental leave, in what can only be described as vote purchasing. Parenthood is compensated.

I have seen what women go through to bring children into the world and feed them, and a year’s parental leave does not come close to making up for the toll it takes on their body not to mention the myriad risks of complications like perineum tearing, separation in abs, death, and maybe even having to care for a special needs child.

Re: Restarting my career after motherhood

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Post by gus_massa »

jseban wrote: post #123
magicalist wrote: post #112

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> With women entering the work force What year is it again? > That's a pretty hefty price to pay for everyone, to save those women who were unlucky to have a cruel or unfair husband. Uh, I don't think that's the trade off here. > I don't know if it's possible to say if it's "worth it" or not, but this independence sure does not come for free. When one option is to go full Taliban, it's actually pretty easy to say if…

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Some women like working.

In particular, my wife like working and having her personal projects. I like to spends part of my time with my children. So we both work and we both take care of the children. We are lucky to have jobs that allow this.

Re: Restarting my career after motherhood

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Post by magicalist »

jseban wrote: post #123
magicalist wrote: post #112

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> With women entering the work force What year is it again? > That's a pretty hefty price to pay for everyone, to save those women who were unlucky to have a cruel or unfair husband. Uh, I don't think that's the trade off here. > I don't know if it's possible to say if it's "worth it" or not, but this independence sure does not come for free. When one option is to go full Taliban, it's actually pretty easy to say if…

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> It's just more communism and less freedom. Everyone has to make a big sacrifice for the unfortunate few. Corporal punishment to deal with the problem of some cruel husbands.

Not sure if you think you're being philosophical or you know this is nonsense, but it is.

Way over the not even wrong line now.

Re: Restarting my career after motherhood

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Post by epx »

Never understood this employer fixation on unbroken careers.

A career break may happen to anyone by infinite reasons beyond motherhood. Most people have such career-pausing or career-delaying events (health issues, depression, fatherhood, taking care of an elderly relative), most conceal it, motherhood just happens not to be concealable.

And things don't change as fast. Not even in IT. And even if changed, legacy is always there, begging for someone to take care of it instead of going to the newest shiny thing.

People out of the market need some warm-up time? Yes, they do. Even machines need to warm-up, dammit.

What people should understand, is that the economy turns because there are mothers, fathers, and kids. I would be retired at 35 if didn't marry and hadn't a kid. Once upon a time I was buying a car, the saleswoman was worried about her job because of her pregnancy. I said "I am buying a new car because of the kid. No pregnant women, no car sales." (If I were single or divorced, would have a couple vintage cars.)

Re: Restarting my career after motherhood

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Post by bsk7 »

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #111
fraoulitsa wrote: post #99

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Thank you so much for reading my blog and for asking all these questions. I am very grateful for everyone's interest + support! I do not have specific requirements. I am flexible in terms of hours/week etc. I am looking on entering a career that utilizes my strong Computer Science + Analytical skills and a career that allows me to develop/ use my content creation skills/ passion, networking, events, communication, di…

You are welcome. Given that this blog is on HN I would think about amending your article with some of these details too. Let people know. There will be some that want to help.

Exactly. Consider adding a link to your LinkedIn profile or your CV on your Medium post so folks that are looking to help (referrals, hiring managers, recruiters) can review your skills and experience.

Re: Restarting my career after motherhood

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Post by taylorius »

knorker wrote: post #14
spyremeown wrote: post #9

I strongly disagree with "I remained flat" statement. I mean, you were taking care of your children, weren't you? If you do it right (imho, if you even just try to do it right), it's the biggest accomplishment one can do. I understand how frustrating it must be to stay professionally flat compared to your peers. We absolutely should celebrate people taking their time off to literally raise the next humans, instead we…

Parenthood is by far the most subsidized personal choice in the universe. Let's not pretend it's not. Some countries give more than a year paid parental leave, in what can only be described as vote purchasing. Parenthood is compensated.

And yet, if no-one had any kids, humanity would go extinct. What's the ROI on that outcome?
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