Edit: Of course if dozens or even hundreds of replies "Why am I on this list?", "Please (do what I say not what do) stop replying" go to 400k again then it gets "interesting". Could not see from the submission or discussion whether that happened. I think it should not happen by default or what kind of Reply-To: those messages have?
GitHub user sends notification to 400k users
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Re: GitHub user sends notification to 400k users
#352Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn’t really fix the “vulnerability” though? Some other jerk can open a new PR and tag everyone again. Or just tag @EpicGames/developers elsewhere, no PR needed.
The thing that gets me, as discussed in this thread, is that the solution is often just super easy. Literally just pop up a modal when the recipient list is above 1,000 users that says “You’re about to send this to X,000 users, Are You Sure?” Would have totally avoided this situation.
Re: GitHub user sends notification to 400k users
#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I’m sure they’ll institute some kind of control to make this sort of thing harder, but honestly I’ve never understood why people get so worked up about this sort of thing. It makes me chuckle. The person looks like a dummy or a shit-stirrer and a lot of people have to delete HUNDREDS (oh my) of messages and have LITERAL MINUTES of their time wasted. The megacorp I work for wastes more of my time with silly self-…
There’s no real way to explain why it’s annoying. You just have to accept that other people have different personalities from yours.
Yeah, being drama queens.
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#354Innocent mistake. The kid is barely 18. The emotion and stress resulting from mistakenly sending a notification to 400,000 is likely overwhelming. Now his real name is going to stay at the center of the internet for a while thanks to being 1st on HN. I would definitely not have coped well with that much internet attention at his age. Some Github replies are more immature than the initial action and I hope he does not…
The patch itself is indeed worse than useless, it's the kind of rephrasing just to say "I did something", but which actually makes it worse (adds useless words and English mistakes). If the "kid" is ready to send this kind of useless "contribution" (which takes some deliberate effort), they surely are ready for being reprimanded (or, more likely, they will be actually proud of it).
Re: GitHub user sends notification to 400k users
#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I’m sure they’ll institute some kind of control to make this sort of thing harder, but honestly I’ve never understood why people get so worked up about this sort of thing. It makes me chuckle. The person looks like a dummy or a shit-stirrer and a lot of people have to delete HUNDREDS (oh my) of messages and have LITERAL MINUTES of their time wasted. The megacorp I work for wastes more of my time with silly self-…
There’s no real way to explain why it’s annoying. You just have to accept that other people have different personalities from yours.
Re: GitHub user sends notification to 400k users
#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't quite get the mindset here. I'm (slowly and lazily) learning a new language, and can't imagine going into some native speaker's repo and trying to correct it...
This kinda looks like an attempt to get a commit into a bigger open source repository. It'd look nice on a resume to say you "contributed to Unreal Engine on GitHub".
As someone who works with a lot of junior devs in India, I know the competition for early career roles in tech is immense, and so folks look at "open source contribution" as a "brownie point" to add in your resume. Having a "contributed to Unreal Engine" sounds great on paper and 3/5 companies would just take it at face-value and move this guy's resume higher up the stack.
And we have enough seasoned devs who try to be helpful to these junior folks and point out that the easiest way to get started in OSS is to provide/fix documentation for OSS since it's usually low barrier to entry + usually lacking in most OSS repos (The people praising the rr documentation is a great anecdote). But looks like the "quality" bit is lost in translation somewhere.
Re: GitHub user sends notification to 400k users
#357Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't go that far. It's annoying to get useless email, but 95% of the non-spam email I receive everyday is useless crap: T&C changes, some company newsletter that somehow I never unsubscribed to, other notifications deemed so important I cannot unsubscribe to, a GitHub thread I subscribed to years ago and now has a very active discussion. It's not like every single person received 400k emails in one go, it's 400…
The attitude annoys me more than the actual effect. I’d also fire someone who “trolled” the company by spraying graffiti on the side of the building. Trivial to remove or even ignore, yes, but the unprofessional and juvenile mindset, taking pleasure in annoying everyone else, is enraging all by itself even if no practical harm was done.
This is random people on the Internet that probably didn't even know they were part of that notification group, as explained elsewhere in this thread, and then joked around a little longer than they should have. It might not been immediately clear to some that each of their responses was to be sent to all 400k.
Not at all the same crime as you paint it to be. In any case, there is no one that's fireable here, so no need to try looking for some kind of righteous justice here.
Re: GitHub user sends notification to 400k users
#358Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ouch. I try to not mix work and personal content on the same laptop, I’ve seen too many glitches (although usually not quite that embarrassing). Slack has been my one exception (although only on my phone). Thanks for the valuable reminder.
> I try to not mix work and personal content on the same laptop It's kind of jaw dropping to me at how this is still not the norm and how people gratuitously mix personal and work content on the same devices, both mobile and desktop.
I have a set of different organizations in Slack, but I used to keep getting them mixed up (embarrassing).
What I did, was assign a different color theme to each org (on Mac. Doesn’t work on iOS). Helps me to differentiate quickly.
Re: GitHub user sends notification to 400k users
#359The toothpaste is out of the tube - notifications are going to be scrutinized more in the future, from this point on. I got the email. And about 20+ responses to that email. Every person who replies to that issue triggers another 400k emails. Personally, my email client is crashing. EpicGames, as a GitHub org is an outlier, it's basically an SSO for Unreal Engine. I forgot I was even a member of it.
Throw that thing in the bin. A human printing emails and placing them on your desk could handle that workload.
Re: GitHub user sends notification to 400k users
#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I try to not mix work and personal content on the same laptop It's kind of jaw dropping to me at how this is still not the norm and how people gratuitously mix personal and work content on the same devices, both mobile and desktop.
Pretty much no company will pay for a work phone these days, even if you have on-call duty.