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It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal

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Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal

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Post by tjpnz »

AdvicePlz wrote: post #3

I knew someone who worked for EA as a UX researcher. He said that games like these are primarily targeting whales who will drop $10k on a game. They are the real money earners. The really sad part was the he said the most whales aren't super rich, they're just people with an addiction.

Time to start regulating these games in the same way we regulate gambling.

They shouldn't be sold to children. They're not Kinda eggs nor LOL Surprise and should never be brushed off as surprise mechanics. They're glorified slot machines, through and through.

Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal

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Post by Marazan »

rightbyte wrote: post #6
jack_pp wrote: post #2

I've watched a lot of discussions about this from twitch streamers and I'm not sure where I stand.. On the one hand I'm amazed at how good this game looks on mobile and if you're just the type to casually play a game not really caring about being the best at it you could have fun playing it for free or for very cheap. On the other hand this game is clearly exploitative and while other games like Hearthstone or Clash…

Casinos are banned in many places and also banned for kids in most places. Clash royale is sad, becouse it is a extremely good game if it were not for the pay to win leveling mechanics. I used to play it alot but it became too frustrating meeting bad players with low ELO but high level cards that you essentially couldn't win over unless they messed up bad. Edit: To level up all cards in Clash Royale you also have to…

Clash Royale is way more generous with free gold to level up cards these days.

Far, far, quicker to get cards to tournament standard.

Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal

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Post by lozenge »

bloodyplonker22 wrote: post #15
AdvicePlz wrote: post #3

I knew someone who worked for EA as a UX researcher. He said that games like these are primarily targeting whales who will drop $10k on a game. They are the real money earners. The really sad part was the he said the most whales aren't super rich, they're just people with an addiction.

Right, most "super rich" people don't get "super rich" by doing super stupid things.

The Chinese proverb “rags to rags in three generations” says that family wealth does not last for three generations. The first generation makes the money, the second spends it and the third sees none of the wealth.

Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal

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Post by can16358p »

While I definitely don't like pay-to-win monetization style, what I find even more ridiculous is the laws at Belgium and Netherlands around loot boxes.

I mean, no one is forcing anyone to play a game or purchase a lootbox. Why ban a game mechanics for this? It hurts the (potential) players, let people decide for themselves FFS.

Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal

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Post by ArmandGrillet »

tjpnz wrote: post #21
AdvicePlz wrote: post #3

I knew someone who worked for EA as a UX researcher. He said that games like these are primarily targeting whales who will drop $10k on a game. They are the real money earners. The really sad part was the he said the most whales aren't super rich, they're just people with an addiction.

Time to start regulating these games in the same way we regulate gambling. They shouldn't be sold to children. They're not Kinda eggs nor LOL Surprise and should never be brushed off as surprise mechanics. They're glorified slot machines, through and through.

Diablo Immortal is not available in Belgium and the Netherlands due to that: https://www.pcgamer.com/diablo-immortal-wont-be-released-in-...

Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal

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Post by throwuxiytayq »

eterm wrote: post #19

And it's barely even a new game, an absolute ton of assets are immediately obvious as very lazily recycled from diablo 3.

Reminds me of Bethesda's Blades, an even lazier p2w mobile title which reuses a lot of Skyrim assets. (Don't check it out, it's not worth your time.)

Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

pototo666 wrote: post #12

As someone used to work for Chinese mobile game companies. $110k sounds average for a pay-to-win game. But the game is new. Designers would create other slots to make money.

>average for a pay-to-win game

What games are above this average?

Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal

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Post by seydor »

AdvicePlz wrote: post #3

I knew someone who worked for EA as a UX researcher. He said that games like these are primarily targeting whales who will drop $10k on a game. They are the real money earners. The really sad part was the he said the most whales aren't super rich, they're just people with an addiction.

10k over a long period is very small compared to what one can lose in a casino night, and casinos do exist.

What kind of game was your friend working on? Whales do exist but they are not the bulk of the revenue

Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal

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Post by vhgyu75e6u »

can16358p wrote: post #24

While I definitely don't like pay-to-win monetization style, what I find even more ridiculous is the laws at Belgium and Netherlands around loot boxes. I mean, no one is forcing anyone to play a game or purchase a lootbox. Why ban a game mechanics for this? It hurts the (potential) players, let people decide for themselves FFS.

Because the monetization mechanics in this games rely on predatory practices employed by casinos which we already regulate?
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