Loot boxes/gacha games are the modern day cigarettes. Harmful, addictive, marketed to minors and very lucrative. Rest of the world needs to catch up to Belgium and Netherlands in banning these.
It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal
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Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal
#12As someone used to work for Chinese mobile game companies. $110k sounds average for a pay-to-win game. But the game is new. Designers would create other slots to make money.
Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal
#13I've watched a lot of discussions about this from twitch streamers and I'm not sure where I stand.. On the one hand I'm amazed at how good this game looks on mobile and if you're just the type to casually play a game not really caring about being the best at it you could have fun playing it for free or for very cheap. On the other hand this game is clearly exploitative and while other games like Hearthstone or Clash…
I don't buy the "we have ways to play the game without spending lots of money" excuse these companies are constantly peddling. I refuse to accept this new default of "games" explicitly designed to abuse children and addicts.
Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal
#14Lootbox games: I don't understand why these kind of games are not getting banned or heavily restricted. There is absolutely not a single positive thing about these games. Moral doesn't matter.
Not to defend lootbox game. But some positive thing: it makes some people's life less boring. Lootbox doesn't make games interesting. But lootbox generates money to hire good designer, programmer to create interesting games, at least for some players.
Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal
#15I knew someone who worked for EA as a UX researcher. He said that games like these are primarily targeting whales who will drop $10k on a game. They are the real money earners. The really sad part was the he said the most whales aren't super rich, they're just people with an addiction.
Right, most "super rich" people don't get "super rich" by doing super stupid things.
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#16Fans have dubbed it "Diablo Immoral" and say that it goes far beyond what other mobile titles infamous for their monetization have done.
Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal
#17I knew someone who worked for EA as a UX researcher. He said that games like these are primarily targeting whales who will drop $10k on a game. They are the real money earners. The really sad part was the he said the most whales aren't super rich, they're just people with an addiction.
Right, most "super rich" people don't get "super rich" by doing super stupid things.
True...ish, but i bet a percentage of them get rich by focussing on what they are good at and neglecting their families, just making piles of money available. There's probably enough kids getting 10K a month pocket money to make GPs stragetgy viable.
Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal
#18I knew someone who worked for EA as a UX researcher. He said that games like these are primarily targeting whales who will drop $10k on a game. They are the real money earners. The really sad part was the he said the most whales aren't super rich, they're just people with an addiction.
I've seen similar comments by several game devs, but at least some of them said that they make most of their money from the kids of the ultra-wealthy. Think of some oil Sheik's son bored to death at home because it's too hot to go outside. But yeah, the "loot boxes" that are mostly gambling have been banned in many countries because they're targeted at young children.
Reminds me of EA Sports FIFA. The whole Build a team process is predatory and based on gambling + micro transactions
Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal
#19And it's barely even a new game, an absolute ton of assets are immediately obvious as very lazily recycled from diablo 3.
Re: It costs $110k to fully gear up in Diablo Immortal
#20Lootbox games: I don't understand why these kind of games are not getting banned or heavily restricted. There is absolutely not a single positive thing about these games. Moral doesn't matter.
Not to defend lootbox game. But some positive thing: it makes some people's life less boring. Lootbox doesn't make games interesting. But lootbox generates money to hire good designer, programmer to create interesting games, at least for some players.
A more cynical perspective is that the designer and programmer are tasked with using all tricks possible to coerce their players to pay money. While the players spend a lot of time and money on it, their life is only less boring akin to an addict’s life being less boring when they’re on a high.