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Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

neil.computer

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Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#472

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Hah, I searched “cam” in the windows search bar the other day looking to open the camera app, but windows decided I was actually looking for “Calculator” or a handful of other things that didn’t have a single “M” in it listed ahead of the actual camera app.

Getting a bit off-topic here but YES, this drives me bonkers. Worse yet is that if I pause there for a moment, the search results continue to reorganize themselves, so that by the time I'm ready with a screenshot, the wrong answer has vanished. I can only catch it on video. How did search turn so terrible?

This has been the absolute biggest surprise from me switching to MacOS after years in windows land. I can hit enter on my spotlight search results before they’re rendered and be confident. I don’t event need cmd+tab anymore. MS on the other hand STILL doesn’t have a search right, and they have a search engine. FYI this was a running joke at MS when I worked there, there is no search in any MS product that is functional. If you’re lucky you’ll get exact string matching, sometimes not even that?

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#474
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Revenues from licensing. Full stop.

Can you elaborate please? I thought their revenue was from users periodic subscriptions. Do you mean there are certain songs with lower licensing costs that the algorithm will prefer?

Despite whatever revenue model(s) are employed, every song that is played generates a fee for the host. Generally, popular media come with higher fees that cost them more to stream, while less popular media are cheaper to license and net them more. The algorithm tries to increase the margin that comes closest to their perception of your preference(s). In theory.

I find it pigeon holes me into a category that may or may not appeal to me, and I get to listen/view what they want me to experience, rather than let me choose & explore without manipulation. No, thanks, is my response.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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AB is the worst. I don't know how long it's been going on, but on YouTube’s homepage it keeps alternating between "Hover to expand video and see Watch Later button" and the regular always-visible Watch Later button. https://imgur.com/a/70p07Ku Pick one already.

I think you can turn off that expand-on-hover popup in the YouTube settings. I found it super annoying and I was surprised it was even an option.

Great! I can also disable "in-video info cards" which are the user-picked videos overlaid on the video, almost always covering the last few seconds of whatever I'm watching unless the video has a 10s ending card. Super annoying.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#476
Fire their UX team and hire this guy and consult with NNG, their visual design language is so unusable, small tiny cryptic icons and hidden gestures be damned. Why do we consumers put up with this bullshit design? The cover art search pattern for podcasts literally makes it impossible to search when I’m on the go, it bothers me so much.

I miss the days of Apple Human Interface Design Guidelines that were actually based off scientific principles of human visual perception.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#477
I don't like when podcast creators publish on Spotify only as it is not even possible to change playback speed in their web ui. And yt-dlp doesn't work either. They want me to download their app & create an account to just be able to listen so I mostly seek through it quickly or skip the podcast completely. They should follow the Netflix path, it is barely usable service.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#478

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>I feel like we've lost essentially nothing. We've lost: cover art, liner notes, the ability to share or sell your music without 3rd party permission, music stores, and in many cases local music scenes that formed around music stores. Bret Victor has been harping on this for years, but we've also lost a great deal of tactility - putting a CD in a player and pressing buttons to play it uses your hands in pleasant ways…

As someone with mobility impairment, putting a CD in a player and pressing buttons to play was never pleasant. In fact I was often stuck with whatever five CDs were left in the player. CDs actually haven't gone away, and you can still use them today. I am glad the world has moved on though.

Also, no children scratching your cd's, or loaning out physical media to friends and never getting it back.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#479
post #474

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Can you elaborate please? I thought their revenue was from users periodic subscriptions. Do you mean there are certain songs with lower licensing costs that the algorithm will prefer?

Despite whatever revenue model(s) are employed, every song that is played generates a fee for the host. Generally, popular media come with higher fees that cost them more to stream, while less popular media are cheaper to license and net them more. The algorithm tries to increase the margin that comes closest to their perception of your preference(s). In theory. I find it pigeon holes me into a category that may or m…

Thats terrible. What is the alternative here?

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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It's why I'm being driven back to piracy, because the UI/UX is do horrible on these platforms, that and believe it or not because Content discovery is easier a couple of the piracy apps look at what I have in my collection, and do recommendations off that... And guess what.. it's really good. So a bunch of people in their spare time seem to be doing a better job than Netflix, why is that? Because I don't think Netfli…

As Gabe Newell said, > If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable. Nowadays I exclusively pirate movies and shows, because just th…

Stremio is actually shady as fuck: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/g4g50x/comment/fo0...

There were also multiple claims of them doing cryptomining on your device.

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