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StopTheMadness – Take back your web browser

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Re: StopTheMadness – Take back your web browser

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Post by oneplane »

pvinis wrote: post #10
oneplane wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be a slogan that gets advertised more, but users don't give a crap about choice when all they want is read misinformation on social media, post personal data in public and watch cat videos on ticktock. The amount of 'taking things back' might only apply to those who 'had' things to begin with, and only a subset of those that still want to 'have' things. I fear most people neither know nor want to know about…

and that's exactly why we need to "take things back". for them. for those that don't know how it was and how it should be.

Technically yes, but if you give people a choice between "no instant gratification, click 10 buttons" and "click here to trade yourself for instant gratification" the latter will still be the selected choice and everything is still the same.

Re: StopTheMadness – Take back your web browser

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Post by pvinis »

oneplane wrote: post #11
pvinis wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and that's exactly why we need to "take things back". for them. for those that don't know how it was and how it should be.

Technically yes, but if you give people a choice between "no instant gratification, click 10 buttons" and "click here to trade yourself for instant gratification" the latter will still be the selected choice and everything is still the same.

most of them yes. but as captain obvious would point out, not everyone's the same. I'm not one of those users. and you're not one of those users. and I understand "taking back" as "making it possible to be ok for users like me". and I appreciate anyone that does that for whatever thing tgat can be "taken back"

Re: StopTheMadness – Take back your web browser

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Post by noodles_nomore »

lysozyme wrote: post #2

I’ve tried a lot of ad blockers over the years. Browsing mainstream news on the internet, in particular, highlights the absolute cesspool of pop ups and auto-playing videos that characterize the contemporary web. None, least of all Stop the Madness, have worked as well and on as many devices as this simple bookmarklet, whose author I don’t know but who has saved me countless aggravations javascript:(function%20()%20%…

This is great. I just discovered that in firefox you can have bookmarks without a title. So if you put this as the only item and without a title into the "Bookmarks Toolbar" folder, you have a simple button that you can add to your toolbar. This is hacky, but good enough for me.

Re: StopTheMadness – Take back your web browser

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Post by nathanasmith »

lysozyme wrote: post #2

I’ve tried a lot of ad blockers over the years. Browsing mainstream news on the internet, in particular, highlights the absolute cesspool of pop ups and auto-playing videos that characterize the contemporary web. None, least of all Stop the Madness, have worked as well and on as many devices as this simple bookmarklet, whose author I don’t know but who has saved me countless aggravations javascript:(function%20()%20%…

I’ve had the Kill Sticky bookmarklet handy as the first item in the bookmarks bar of every browser I’ve used for years and it is phenomenal in how simple and useful it is. Works everywhere from my iPad to my desktop and everywhere in between. Really a sanity saver and I can’t recommend it highly enough.

Re: StopTheMadness – Take back your web browser

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Post by quickthrower2 »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #3

> The developer of StopTheMadness is Jeff Johnson, famous for solving the Mac OCSP appocalypse. Jeff's other software includes Link Unshortener, a Mac app that expands shortened web links, Tweaks for Twitter, a web browser extension for Mac and iOS that makes Twitter better, and StopTheScript, a Safari extension for iOS that stops all JavaScript on your selected websites. If HCI/UX was a real thing, none of these rem…

UX is not a real thing for companies. GX is. Growth experience. Growth in revenue that is. GX and UX might overlap (for example when Chrome first came out it was just a lot faster which is a better UX) but similarly everything considered “asshole design” is also GX.

Re: StopTheMadness – Take back your web browser

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Post by gumby »

Stop the madness is great. Don’t think of it as an ad blocker (it helps with that but I use an ad blocker as well). It removes a lot of madness, like forms that suppress paste (or copy), text selection, auto play etc. Makes it possible to use a web browser.

Re: StopTheMadness – Take back your web browser

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Post by ezequiel-garzon »

From the Apple App Store regarding Safari settings:

This extension can read and alter webpages you visit and see your browsing history on all websites.

This includes sensitive information from webpages, including passwords, phone numbers, and credit cards.

The whole idea sounds great, even reasonably priced but... having to trust another company on all that seems too risky. They should offer a standalone browser instead of a Safari extension, so that the user can easily skip it when dealing with sensitive data.

Re: StopTheMadness – Take back your web browser

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Post by nonrandomstring »

oneplane wrote: post #5
nonrandomstring wrote: post #3

> The developer of StopTheMadness is Jeff Johnson, famous for solving the Mac OCSP appocalypse. Jeff's other software includes Link Unshortener, a Mac app that expands shortened web links, Tweaks for Twitter, a web browser extension for Mac and iOS that makes Twitter better, and StopTheScript, a Safari extension for iOS that stops all JavaScript on your selected websites. If HCI/UX was a real thing, none of these rem…

It might be a slogan that gets advertised more, but users don't give a crap about choice when all they want is read misinformation on social media, post personal data in public and watch cat videos on ticktock. The amount of 'taking things back' might only apply to those who 'had' things to begin with, and only a subset of those that still want to 'have' things. I fear most people neither know nor want to know about…

> but users don't give a crap about choice when all they want is read misinformation on social media, post personal data in public and watch cat videos on ticktock.

I really don't mean to direct this at you personally, I suspect you're just repeating things you've heard, or what you think other's think, but I sincerely believe this kind of latent contempt for users needs to stop. Are we all experts on what "users don't give a crap about" here? In another thread today [1] I made a similar remark about our willingness to suppose we know how "users" feel about privacy.

This feels wrong, like the equivalent of something like racism or sexism that should have died out in the 1980s.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31618884

Re: StopTheMadness – Take back your web browser

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Post by garrickvanburen »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #19
oneplane wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be a slogan that gets advertised more, but users don't give a crap about choice when all they want is read misinformation on social media, post personal data in public and watch cat videos on ticktock. The amount of 'taking things back' might only apply to those who 'had' things to begin with, and only a subset of those that still want to 'have' things. I fear most people neither know nor want to know about…

> but users don't give a crap about choice when all they want is read misinformation on social media, post personal data in public and watch cat videos on ticktock. I really don't mean to direct this at you personally, I suspect you're just repeating things you've heard, or what you think other's think, but I sincerely believe this kind of latent contempt for users needs to stop. Are we all experts on what "users don…

The word “User” itself is derogatory.
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