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The FBI tried to ambush my source

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Re: The FBI tried to ambush my source

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It’s saddening that we as Americans tolerate this kind of abuse from the department of “justice”, FBI, and NSA. I hope any employees of the above that read my post understand that you’re working for the wrong side. Absolutely none of their justifications hold water, and it doesn’t matter that they catch a few bad guys. Their very existence is antithetical to a free and open society. Edit: To expound upon this further…

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Re: The FBI tried to ambush my source

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post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just wanted to chime in that all ranked voting systems can be gamed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow%27s_impossibility_theore...

This is an oversimplified conclusion. FTA: > The practical consequences of the theorem are debatable: Arrow has said "Most systems are not going to work badly all of the time. All I proved is that all can work badly at times Followed by: > Although Arrow's theorem is a mathematical result, it is often expressed in a non-mathematical way with a statement such as no voting method is fair, every ranked voting method is…

> Bottom line - this seems interesting, but is hardly as simple as "all ranked voting systems can be gamed"

It is almost that simple. Every deviation from the unattainable ideal in Arrow’s theorem corresponds to one or more ways that the system:

(1) can be gamed, or

(2) is insensitive to voter preferences, or

(3) changes outcomes in the opposite direction of changes in expressed voter preferences.

(And usually several from multiple categories.)

There are whole catalogs of these and enumerations of which ones apply to each voting system.

Re: The FBI tried to ambush my source

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, we also need multi-member, proportional legislative districts. https://www.fairvote.org/prcv . Single member districts are a disgusting thing for a society that claims to be a representative democracy. As a very simple example, rural liberals and urban conservatives effectively never get represented in our government, and that's still within the context of the false dichotomy of left/right. But single winner ran…

We don't need anything so complicated, we just need to return to the house and electoral college being periodically resized according to census data rather than fixed at 435. Those reversions would solve most electoral problems without even needing to touch hard issues of engineering fair an trustworthy alternative voting systems.

> Those reversions would solve most electoral problems

No, they wouldn't, as the problems (including duopoly) predate the changes you would reverse.

Re: The FBI tried to ambush my source

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> Later, he split his time between the United States and Europe; he told me that he was sometimes involved in international arms deals.

>The lawyer seemed to be an adrenaline junkie, someone who had found a home on the dark side of international intelligence.

one can do it only while working on some US intelligence service.

>the then-attorney general denied the request and was furious that it had been put in writing

beautiful. Looks like somebody in FBI nicely covered their own bottom with the Attorney General himself - " ... as was previously discussed the USB drive containing data dump from the broken in computer of the journalist trying to report on the NSA illegal spying ..." or something like that :)

Re: The FBI tried to ambush my source

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post #104

I doubt the source existed, the lawyer sounds like a fantasist and both the reporter and FBI fell for his stories. It pretty much says right there in the story that the lawyer was usually full of shit-- "I have concluded that the American lawyer loved to play games with everyone ... The lawyer told Ridd that he frequently lied to me and my colleagues at the Times ... 'I lie my ass off every day'". From personal exper…

> When confronted with irrefutable proof of his deception his victims and enablers make excuses or treat it as a one or few time issue, failing to accept that it's just another example out of thousands.

People seem to do this with a lot of things. Their favorite pop stars, companies, countries, ideologies, etc.

Re: The FBI tried to ambush my source

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I hope stories like this open the eyes of folks who are die-hard Democrats or die-hard Republicans. They are not on your side. They are on their own side. I don't doubt that most folks at these agencies are hard-working Americans who believe they're doing what's best for our country. Having said that, this kind of unchecked power is dangerous.

Why else do you think career politicians from across the spectrum, from liberal Gavin Newsom to conservative Ron DeSantis, have worked hard to explicitly block ranked choice voting reforms? Not just voice their opinions against it, but proactively halt and override legislative reforms when they happen. The duopoly doesn't benefit from making a more fair and inclusive system that allows for a greater diversity of poli…

I used to be a big proponent of ranked choice voting, but then I finally stepped back and realized that it doesn't seem to necessarily produce more "inclusive" or "unifying" outcomes. Change my mind.

Re: The FBI tried to ambush my source

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I hope stories like this open the eyes of folks who are die-hard Democrats or die-hard Republicans. They are not on your side. They are on their own side. I don't doubt that most folks at these agencies are hard-working Americans who believe they're doing what's best for our country. Having said that, this kind of unchecked power is dangerous.

If we knockout the nationalism, what's left?

States, counties, for some - districts. Thirty years and I've met one representative.

America wasn't designed to operate at the current scale and it's causing considerable strife internally and externally. We're effectively the de facto world sovereign, and at the same time we the people and the collective will is so contrived as to be totally incomprehensible, largely, I would posit, as a product of federal overreach and inertia. We'd do well to refederate - California's America is not the same as Texas' nor is Florida's the same as Michigan's. It's kind of an absurdity to indicate we're a nation at this point, there are really no points of unity which bond us in this era, and that's what defines a nation. That is to say there are no more Americans.

Re: The FBI tried to ambush my source

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post #4

I hope stories like this open the eyes of folks who are die-hard Democrats or die-hard Republicans. They are not on your side. They are on their own side. I don't doubt that most folks at these agencies are hard-working Americans who believe they're doing what's best for our country. Having said that, this kind of unchecked power is dangerous.

If we knockout the nationalism, what's left? States, counties, for some - districts. Thirty years and I've met one representative. America wasn't designed to operate at the current scale and it's causing considerable strife internally and externally. We're effectively the de facto world sovereign, and at the same time we the people and the collective will is so contrived as to be totally incomprehensible, largely, I…

I think we muddled along fine as long as we had 3 or 4 TV networks steering the national conversation and no social networking. Now we can self-select for our biases and realities.

I think we’ll come through it intact. Hopefully.

Re: The FBI tried to ambush my source

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post #104

I doubt the source existed, the lawyer sounds like a fantasist and both the reporter and FBI fell for his stories. It pretty much says right there in the story that the lawyer was usually full of shit-- "I have concluded that the American lawyer loved to play games with everyone ... The lawyer told Ridd that he frequently lied to me and my colleagues at the Times ... 'I lie my ass off every day'". From personal exper…

I'm also confused how the lawyer was the person who introduced the source to the journo, but the FBI can't press the lawyer directly to find out who the source was? Is the idea that the lawyer just connected a completely random anonymous person with his journo friend?

Re: The FBI tried to ambush my source

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s saddening that we as Americans tolerate this kind of abuse from the department of “justice”, FBI, and NSA. what do you suggest we do about it? We have no meaningful recourse against the myriad of government abuses.

We have the courts, the threat of which forced the government to make the only illegal program in Snowden's leaks legal. We have the ballot box, which elected Obama, who shut down email metadata surveillance even before it leaked.

Also that Second Amendment we all have to pay for with our childrens' blood in perpetuity. That's supposed to be the only thing keeping our government from slipping into tyranny. Despite all the tyranny our government has apparently slipped into.
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