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Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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For t-mobile america users/cheapskates: it's quad-band 3G unlike the N9's penta-band 3G, so I don't see this phone selling on t-mobile at all. Too bad though, I've been wanting to replace my nexus one with a well-designed easily jailbreakable/sim-unlockable os.

Will it run on AT&T? A couple of my friends want that phone NOW.

yeah, should work fine on att 3g

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(disclaimer: Nokia employee) On the one hand, maintaining two OS teams for the same hardware would be a waste of resources. On the other hand, I have heard stories of how Microsoft would often commit several teams to build a product to the same spec: the team that got something market-ready first was handsomely rewarded, and the teams that didn’t got reassigned to wash Bill Gates’s car. On the other other hand, Micro…

I have heard stories of how Microsoft would often commit several teams to build a product to the same spec: the team that got something market-ready first was handsomely rewarded... This is how large companies should run projects. Bureaucracies often suck because they have a captive audience -- because they have no competition. Development teams can suck for exactly the same reasons. In comparison to the potential im…

As a counterpoint, there are innumerable software projects that would better our world and create wealth, but only a limited number of developers. Assigning two teams to do nearly the same thing is a waste.

Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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I never got into it enough to really understand MVVM. It looks like MVC with a different name to me, which leads me to believe I don't get it yet. Perhaps I was doing it wrong. When I used the GUI to layout UI it was modifying the same XAML that I was also changing manually. I admit to being ignorant about modern versions of Visual Studio, this one trivial app I created was the first time I used .NET, C#, XAML, and V…

OK, I see what you're saying. You're doing layout with the designer and seeing the XAML is changing. Yes, the XAML is the underlying representation of the layout. i think most people are thinking about the code that gets generated and called via "InitializeComponent". What gets generated after the XAML compiler parses the XAML. You should view the designer as simply a convenient way to edit XAML. Like using a designe…

I'd say ui designer is convenient at the cost of potentially adding cruft, again not much different than using say dreamweaver.

I've been doing WPF for a the past year, and I've learned to just edit XAML manually while staring at the designer for instant feedback.

Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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As an owner of an N9, this makes me kind of sad.

I wrote a longer comment on another thread, but what this really makes me feel is that, instead of utilising a great design paired with WP7, there's just another indistinct me-too device to be drowned out by the iPhone.

It's sad, because the people who were behind the N9 really seemed like they understood what Apple was on about, how and why the iPhone was like it was.

Nokia may not have gotten all of it, but they were catching on, and with this release, I fear that spirit may have been lost.

Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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How do I encrypt the contents of my apple iPhone 4? I couldn't see anything that looked like encryption in the Settings window.

Set a pass code. It encrypts storage transparently after that. There are ways to force device security using lion server (or iCloud or active sync) too. Unfortunately there are some flaws in the implementation, but it is at least easy.

Ah, I never thought it encrypted the drive because when I plug my iPhone into my computer it's still password protected but I can browse the photo's on my iPhone.

Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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post #123

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I have heard stories of how Microsoft would often commit several teams to build a product to the same spec: the team that got something market-ready first was handsomely rewarded... This is how large companies should run projects. Bureaucracies often suck because they have a captive audience -- because they have no competition. Development teams can suck for exactly the same reasons. In comparison to the potential im…

As a counterpoint, there are innumerable software projects that would better our world and create wealth, but only a limited number of developers. Assigning two teams to do nearly the same thing is a waste.

Yes, but those are very different contexts -- mine was the big corporation with tons of cash on hand, with in-house development projects that could facilitate activities generating 100's of millions of billions of dollars. Going the extra mile to ensure the organization has access to the best of several options has a definite payoff.
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