Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by clairity » Sat, Jun 04, 2022, 6:34 AM UTC

bdcravens wrote: post #117

clairity wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wow, this takes me back. before cakephp, there was fusebox. i had started to write my own framework back then, but found fusebox to do most of what i'd wanted to do, so used it for a few projects. then cakephp came out as an iteration on the MVC pattern, and i switched immediately. only later did i discover rails, which was even more pleasant, as it sat atop ruby rather than php.

Never used Fusebox in PHP, but used it in ColdFusion, where it originated.

yah, i actually used it with coldfusion first too, then php later. fun times.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by topnde » Sat, Jun 04, 2022, 6:53 AM UTC

gepardi wrote: post #102

topnde wrote: post #23

Javascript: SvelteJS Using it for some personal projects with Vite and it is a breath of fresh air. I use React for work during the day, but coding in Svelte just brings me joy.

React is really grinding my gears, lately. Do you use something t like Redux with Svelte or is the approach different?

At the moment there is no external library for state management in Svelte. There is however Svelte context api and stores but I doubt you can make complex apps with that alone same as is very hard to do it with React context api.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by quintes » Sat, Jun 04, 2022, 8:36 AM UTC

bambax wrote: post #15

For SPAs I still use Backbone.js... Yes, I know, 2014 called and it wants its framework back. But... I like it. It's lightweight and doesn't impose any particular style or philosophy. It's well suited to small projects. On the back end, for small projects, using a full-fledged framework is usually overkill. Writing a simple API that reads and write normalized data is quite trivial, and when one is writing everything…

I love this. I used backbone in 2012/13 when everyone was all angularjs, it was a great project and I enjoyed the simplicity. I was intimately beaten into learning angular for the next gig

Edit: dates

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by d1sxeyes » Sat, Jun 04, 2022, 8:55 AM UTC

xeromal wrote: post #33

topnde wrote: post #23

Javascript: SvelteJS Using it for some personal projects with Vite and it is a breath of fresh air. I use React for work during the day, but coding in Svelte just brings me joy.

I really hope SvelteJS takes off!

It mostly has. The lead dev has been hired by Vercel, which means I'm sure there's some exciting platform level stuff coming to SvelteKit too (similar to Next.js and React).

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by SebastianKra » Sat, Jun 04, 2022, 9:49 AM UTC

topnde wrote: post #122

gepardi wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

React is really grinding my gears, lately. Do you use something t like Redux with Svelte or is the approach different?

At the moment there is no external library for state management in Svelte. There is however Svelte context api and stores but I doubt you can make complex apps with that alone same as is very hard to do it with React context api.

Judging from the documentation of custom stores, it would be trivial to integrate Redux

https://svelte.dev/tutorial/custom-stores

In fact, their API is so similar to Redux and RXJS that I think you might not even need to write any glue-code.

https://redux.js.org/api/store/#subscribelistener https://rxjs.dev/guide/observable#subscribing-to-observables

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by SahAssar » Sat, Jun 04, 2022, 11:22 AM UTC

nasir wrote: post #37

I've been looking into Remix ( https://remix.run/ ) to build javascript web project. I come from 10 years of Python/Django background and I want to avoid complexity of frameworks such as React particularly the headache of state management. Remix seems to use an approach similar to Hotwire Turbo Frames and a syntax of React JSX. This allows creating composable pages and loading partials in a page while still being abl…

You want to avoid the complexity of react by using a platform that wraps react with more complexity? Remix is based on react if you didn't know: https://github.com/remix-run/remix/blob/main/package.json#L9...

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by antifa » Sat, Jun 04, 2022, 1:39 PM UTC

I'm a huge fan of feathersjs and I don't even use the websocket features.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by euroderf » Sat, Jun 04, 2022, 2:19 PM UTC

Tangentially related: Is there any "framework" that simply loads a webassembly executable and then has it directly manipulate the entire web page being displayed to the user by the browser ? Presumably while keeping a websocket open to the server host.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by sureglymop » Sat, Jun 04, 2022, 4:28 PM UTC

DanHulton wrote: post #51

This is a self-plug, but I use the (commercial) framework that I wrote: Nodewood [1]. I really enjoy JavaScript, specifically the combination of Express on the back-end and Vue on the front-end, and I got tired of having to do so much setup every time I wanted to work on a new project. So I abstracted it out into its own thing and started adding fixes to all the other little things that bothered me about web developm…

That's a really cool idea! Your website does seem a little funky on my Android phone though, the embedded YouTube video made the whole page wider and horizontally scrollable.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by sureglymop » Sat, Jun 04, 2022, 4:30 PM UTC

euroderf wrote: post #128

Tangentially related: Is there any "framework" that simply loads a webassembly executable and then has it directly manipulate the entire web page being displayed to the user by the browser ? Presumably while keeping a websocket open to the server host.

Damn, i really want this. On another note, is it even possible to manipulate the DOM directly from WebAssembly with no JavaScript glue code? Seems like a pretty good opportunity for a new "modern" framework.