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Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by the_only_law »

> There are so many terrible UX/UI patterns everywhere in these tech companies. Apple, Google, Spotify, Netflix, Microsoft, Amazon, etc;

I 100% agree with this, and I find myself increasingly hating software the worse the UX is.

I was in visual studio the other day, and wanted to view the properties of the project on the settings page, so I open it up trying to view it, which immediately and automatically without any input from me fired some sort of event off that modified the settings and completely broke the project.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by 0x00000000 »

basisword wrote: post #73
boesboes wrote: post #69

I f'ing hate spotify with a passion. The shit UX and them pushing JRE and other bullshit podcasts I dont want or need in my life was bad, but for me the final straw was that they decided to show me popups for their shit playlists when I was trying to put on one some music. Found out they have been doing it for years to people, and if you complain they basically refer you to the suggestion box and to go f yourself. I…

>> So I switched back to Apple music. It's pretty shit, but at least I get to decide what I want to listen too. I love and hate Apple Music. The library style interface is great. But for a company that hangs on about the virtue of native apps the Music app is complete dogshit. Even with the recent slightly more native “rewrite” I still spend ages waiting for screens to load. Spotify is so much snappier.

My biggest issue with it is that every time my phone connects to bluetooth Apple Music starts playing my entire library on shuffle wasting all of my data and battery and there is no way to turn off this feature. It seriously has me contemplating switching but the alternatives are not appealing.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by lapser »

darkerside wrote: post #272
lapser wrote: post #43

Spotify is horrendous. Their UI is subpar. Their mix of podcasts with songs is odd at best (seriously, I never listen to podcasts, why can't I switch it off completely?). Their shuffle is just not. Imagine listening to the same 20ish songs from a playlist of nearly 2k songs. How can you mess up shuffle that bad? It's also not easy to move away from it. It requires time and effort. Time that many don't have.

I read a blog post about this at some point. When people say shuffle, they don't actually mean random. They mean, songs I haven't heard in a while.

Spotify's algorithm doesn't do "songs I haven't heard in a while", it does " here's 20 songs from your playlist, have fun with it for the next few weeks. So even if I "songs I haven't heard in a while", Spotify's garbage algorithm is not it. At this rate, I'd much prefer an actually random playlist.

I've been having to work around it by copying over the playlist I was shuffled, running it through shuf, and then putting it in to a separate playlist, and lastly, disable shuffle. It's garbage, but it's better than what Spotify produces.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by hyperdimension »

DarylZero wrote: post #242
motoxpro wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/how-little-do-users-read/ This is why they were advocating for "Concise Titles" instead of "Titles that are Short Enough to Read, but Long Enough to Convey Info!"

When you have 20 consecutive listings that all have the same first 80 characters, you don't even read those 80 characters. But the listing only shows the part you don't read!

I agree. It's so anno...

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by OCISLY »

anticristi wrote: post #237
srrr wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

15 years ago when I worked in the music streaming space we also had to push users to playlists instead of albums. The reason, in Germany at least, was that a playlist only payed 1/10 the royalties to the GEMA [1] than an album playthrough. Playlists were classified as ¨radio¨ and thus a performance of the radio station but an album was the performance of the original artist. Our interface was optimized for low royalt…

Thanks for highlighting this! I was getting the feeling that search has become increasingly crappier. Not just Spotify, but also in other places like Google, Facebook and DuckDuckGo. Search for anything and you'll get something "pausibly deniability" close to what you typed, but optimized for metrics that are way beyond the user's comprehension. I feel like singling out Facebook, the worst offender: Their search is o…

YouTube not even try to hide fact it presents search reasults that are completly not relevant to user query.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by uxcolumbo »

opportune wrote: post #330

I think one reason companies have been doing this lately is because a surprisingly large population of computer users are only semi-literate (low education or just children). So if you’re doing UX Research you’ll actually notice this more visual, non-textual UI does “better” in a lot of metrics

Do you have any sources for this?

I'd be interested to read more about it. Why in general the UX in a lot of apps has been dropping (for me).

It's like information density doesn't matter anymore.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by warent »

> Hmm. What the fuck is this!? Why are you trying to be edgy?

This killed me lol. Very true. Thanks for the write-up.

I left Spotify after a few years of using it and currently am trying Tidal because they pay the artists more apparently? Sadly, however, they're guilty of the same UX problems.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by vlunkr »

psyc wrote: post #260
WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey something about this comment just seemed a bit over the top negative/angry and didn’t sit right with me. Hope you remember not to take all these small frustrations too seriously in life. Wishing you well and sending positive vibes. (and I switched to Apple too)

Here's mine. Fuck Spotify. Any user problem gets referred to the suggestion box where you'll always be told to go fuck yourself. That's the only attitude they know: fuck you with a generic smile. There's this feature that they think is neat, and nobody wants, where they'll switch to whatever device you pick up and pick up where you left off. The problem is that for many users, the only thing it does is persistently s…

Link to the thread? That description doesn't make sense to me.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by bravetraveler »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #318
ulrikrasmussen wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same, I love Bandcamp, and I am truly worried that Epic will find a way to ruin it. It is one of the last places on the internet I know of where you can easily buy music for download (i.e. you actually own it).

You can buy and download DRM-free music from Apple and Amazon.

Also Qobuz - I like the 'hi res' availability and various format choices

One of the few services that seems to give Linux users like myself a decent experience

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