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Ask HN: What is the best jurisdiction for internationally distributed teams?

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This question is inspired by: "How I would start my next startup in Germany without a GmbH (2020)" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31601638)

Say you want to set up a startup and the founders live in Germany, the US, Australia and Singapore. Your team will be fully remote from day one.

You are looking for a solution where

- the company is fully operational within days or weeks and can be set up without all founders having to come together in person

- day to day business can managed remotely (e.g. together with local tax advisor / lawyer)

- the jurisdiction has a solid good reputation

- the legal frameworks are understood and accepted by US / EU investors and VCs

- complying with all requirements around hiring employees is not too much of a burden

- official language of documents is English

- you have a good framework for rewarding employees with equity

Where would you incorporate and why?

I've looked into the US (obviously..), UK, Cayman (I know YC allows Cayman legal entities), Hong Kong, Cyprus etc. and see at lot of pros and cons for each option.

If you've gone through the process, can you share some insights and whether you'd do it again this way?

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Based on your description, your goals are predictability and low or outsource-able overhead. For those goals, the US is the clear choice. By far the largest pool of investors and employees are comfortable with US entities as counterparties. Plenty of companies will incorporate, prepare tax returns, and handle other compliance items (unemployment insurance) for relatively small fees.

As far as states, if you don't care, Delaware is probably the most common. Nevada and Wyoming have no state corporate income taxes, so they are also popular. More on that: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesnycouncil/2019/03/04/the-... . To incorporate, check out Firstbase (https://www.firstbase.io/) or Stripe Atlas.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best jurisdiction for internationally distributed teams?

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You’re likely going to have to establish “business entities” in each county - but if you’re working with VC/other firms I’d say defaulting to US - California would be the most known.

Really, you'd think VCs would prefer California over Delaware? At least YC specifically prefers Delaware:

> Why is it that we try to advise all companies, no matter who or where, that Delaware C Corp is the right thing to do?

src: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/5C-tips-on-company-forma...

Re: Ask HN: What is the best jurisdiction for internationally distributed teams?

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post #5

You’re likely going to have to establish “business entities” in each county - but if you’re working with VC/other firms I’d say defaulting to US - California would be the most known.

Really, you'd think VCs would prefer California over Delaware? At least YC specifically prefers Delaware: > Why is it that we try to advise all companies, no matter who or where, that Delaware C Corp is the right thing to do? src: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/5C-tips-on-company-forma...

You'd only think that if you haven't compared the burdens associated with each.

Delaware has long-specialized in making themselves an attractive place to incorporate. California... has a different mix of priorities, let's say.

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