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Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

neil.computer

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Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#221
Want to browse your favorite genre?

Trying clicking Search, and then... scroll through and read 80 tiles, one by one, until you find the one you're looking for!

You can't sort the list.

It's not even in alphabetical order.

The ordering of the list changes based on unknown criteria.

It's comically bad UI/UX. If there was a sitcom about bad UX, this would be in the pilot episode.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#222

I still don't understand why sometimes I click play on an album of a specific artists and in half an hour or so songs from a completely different artists start playing too. I specifically did not click mix or radio or genre - just play on the album itself. I have no idea why big companies like that always have to have such shitty UI.

You can turn that behavior off in the settings. On desktop, it's in Settings > Autoplay, on mobile (android, anyway), it's in Settings > Playback. You'll want to uncheck both "Autoplay on this device" and "Autoplay on other devices" in either case. Then once your album ends, playback stops.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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post #196

This is a big frustration of mine, too. The other is that Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. The good news is that Spotify's SDK and API are actually powerful enough that you can build up an entire alternative interface, which is actually what I recently started doing: https://i.imgur.com/ar7VrYy.png . It's still work in progr…

15 years ago when I worked in the music streaming space we also had to push users to playlists instead of albums. The reason, in Germany at least, was that a playlist only payed 1/10 the royalties to the GEMA [1] than an album playthrough. Playlists were classified as ¨radio¨ and thus a performance of the radio station but an album was the performance of the original artist. Our interface was optimized for low royalt…

I’ve long suspected this for Amazon Music

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#224

A concise explanation: functionalism is secondary to the attention economy for modern media platforms. Hard to advertise in a functional list grid, but yeah like fuck, I’m right there with you. It’s to the point where I’d rather just steal the album off of YouTube. At least there’s an ad-blocker.

Advertising ruins everything. No exceptions. In Spotify's case it's an even bigger insult since people are paying for the privilege of being advertised to.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#225
post #46

The truncated text is a huge peeve of mine with designers. I get that it’s hard to design a nice grid if you have to account for text that wrapped etc, but not everyone is called Tom Smith, and not all titles are 20 characters long. A designer I know advocated that users should be coaxed into using shorter titles and descriptions so that the UI looks good. It just makes me seethe.

> A designer I know advocated that users should be coaxed into using shorter titles My collection is 99% classical. The problem is especially bad for classical tracks. “Symphony No. 9 in D minor, Op…” What opus, what movement? what tempo marking? Yes I’ll go back and tell Beethoven to change the title to something shorter and catchier. “Joy, Bros!” Is that better? It’s some kind hubris to think your UI (itself the re…

Supposedly there’s a classical version of Apple Music in the works, which should fix this.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#226

I f'ing hate spotify with a passion. The shit UX and them pushing JRE and other bullshit podcasts I dont want or need in my life was bad, but for me the final straw was that they decided to show me popups for their shit playlists when I was trying to put on one some music. Found out they have been doing it for years to people, and if you complain they basically refer you to the suggestion box and to go f yourself. I…

Hey something about this comment just seemed a bit over the top negative/angry and didn’t sit right with me. Hope you remember not to take all these small frustrations too seriously in life. Wishing you well and sending positive vibes.

(and I switched to Apple too)

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

#227
post #46

The truncated text is a huge peeve of mine with designers. I get that it’s hard to design a nice grid if you have to account for text that wrapped etc, but not everyone is called Tom Smith, and not all titles are 20 characters long. A designer I know advocated that users should be coaxed into using shorter titles and descriptions so that the UI looks good. It just makes me seethe.

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/how-little-do-users-read/ This is why they were advocating for "Concise Titles" instead of "Titles that are Short Enough to Read, but Long Enough to Convey Info!"

Well sure, if we were building something towards general audience I’d say yes, let’s bias our UI towards editorial rules that can be enforced, since incentives align.

We’re building enterprise-internal software. There’s ton of jargon that is in play that we can’t really shorten or guide. It’s insane to think that the users, experts with decades of experience in their domain, should editorialize to fit a design goal. Sometimes, the users do know best.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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post #43

Spotify is horrendous. Their UI is subpar. Their mix of podcasts with songs is odd at best (seriously, I never listen to podcasts, why can't I switch it off completely?). Their shuffle is just not. Imagine listening to the same 20ish songs from a playlist of nearly 2k songs. How can you mess up shuffle that bad? It's also not easy to move away from it. It requires time and effort. Time that many don't have.

To combat the shuffle I split my playlists into bite sized ones around 50-100 songs. Works great for me
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