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Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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  Our system is big part custom OCaml code and also employs third-party technologies - Debian, ELK, Puppet, and anything else that will solve the task at hand. In this role, be prepared to deal with 25 petabytes storage cluster, 2,000 bare-metal servers, experimental large-scale deployments and all kinds of software bugs and hardware deviations on a daily basis.
Company is based in Singapore, but where are the servers? No way you're hosting 2k servers there, the costs are just too high.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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As with most supposed Google killers, it suffers from the small issue of being terrible. Right now I'm in Los Angeles and looking to buy a roll of film. When I search for "where to buy film in los angeles": - Google gives me three top Maps results, all small photo stores relevant to my search, a Yelp results page, some relevant reddit discussions with recommendations, and then sites for some individual businesses. -…

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Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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To be honest I'm not even quite sure what you mean when you say "film stores". It could mean stores that sell photographic film, or stores that sell movies. Presumably you mean the former, but I certainly wouldn't call stores that sell film as "film stores". They'd most likely be photography stores or maybe at big box/department/pharmacies. In that respect, asking for "film stores" is like asking for "bacon stores".

> stores that sell photographic film, or stores that sell movies You'll be happy to hear that Yep selects neither for top positions: https://yep.com/web?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles . Google, Bing, and Yahoo all get this perfectly right. Other searches are much worse. "los angeles, where to purchase roll of film" top 3 results: https://i.imgur.com/UxEXD0N.png 1. The movie Battle: Los Angeles on Vudu 2. A fake viagra s…

I am not from the USA but I was going to respond to say I don't know if "film stores" have existed for decades, so searching for "photography store" or "camera store" would be far more appropriate... but sadly Yep fails at "photography store in los angeles" and for "camera store in los angeles" only gave one good result :(

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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>Right now I'm in Los Angeles and looking to buy a roll of film. When I search for "where to buy film in los angeles": I remember I was in school they'd teach you how to formulate search queries. You wouldn't ask questions like "how to bake a cookie", you'd use keywords like "cookie recipe". Search engines have progressed much since those days, such that you can ask questions and it would mostly know what you were lo…

I’d encourage all those who believe this is just a keyword issue to try to find a search on Yep that produces film stores in LA. I just tried like 10 incantations to no avail “Film store in los angeles” gives me DVD stores on yellowpages.com as the 3rd result…

"Camera store Los Angeles"

and

"Photography store Los Angeles"

Both pulled up full pages of results wkth just websites of stores that sell film.

Your search-fu is atrophied, if it ever was any good.

Non-ML heavy search engines search for identical text on the page. So if you want a store that sells film, you need a keyword combination that would appear on their website; not a vague question or request to a mystical search AI.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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post #20

As with most supposed Google killers, it suffers from the small issue of being terrible. Right now I'm in Los Angeles and looking to buy a roll of film. When I search for "where to buy film in los angeles": - Google gives me three top Maps results, all small photo stores relevant to my search, a Yelp results page, some relevant reddit discussions with recommendations, and then sites for some individual businesses. -…

Even duckduckgo does not seem to be able to do local search. Especially outside the US. Only Google seems to be able to to do it for some reason.

But in general terms both Google and Duckduckgo seem to be broken and they give almost the same results for most other queries. Which has become universally bad in a lot of cases. With either SEO spammed sites on top or just the wrong results shown, with the search engine ignoring words in the query. Hopefully these alternatives find a solution to that so that atleast non-local search improves.

The search space is really broken. So as long as a search engine can actually search even if it cannot do local to begin with, would be a great start.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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I love how there are now many little search engines trying to differentiate themselves from Google. A few others worth checking out are: 1. https://search.brave.com (they use their own index / my personal favourite) 2. https://kagi.com 3. https://neeva.com

If we're adding our own, https://www.unscatter.com is mine. It's focused on the news vertical rather than general search.

It's not monetized but it's also only costing me less than $50 a month in hosting and cloudflare costs to support.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

#59

I don't trust Ahrefs at all. The whole SEO industry is tainted, and Ahrefs is not a good part of it. I don't want a search engine that pays "creators" (a search engine finds things, if they want to monetize it it is after it is found). I want a search engine that runs exactly as many ads as are needed to pay for itself, nothing more. Preferably with an option to pay for myself as an option. I'm guessing that means ht…

This needs to be higher up.

If you go to the about section of Yep.com, you can see this is powered by the "Ahrefs" bot (not just for sourcing crawler data but also run by the same people).

Ahrefs is a sleazy "SEO tool" ( https://ahrefs.com/pricing ) that basically exists to exploit weaknesses in search engine algorithms and other shady things (and make lots of money doing it -- $99/mo to $999/mo).

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