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Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by hackernewds »

SahAssar wrote: post #24

I don't trust Ahrefs at all. The whole SEO industry is tainted, and Ahrefs is not a good part of it. I don't want a search engine that pays "creators" (a search engine finds things, if they want to monetize it it is after it is found). I want a search engine that runs exactly as many ads as are needed to pay for itself, nothing more. Preferably with an option to pay for myself as an option. I'm guessing that means ht…

exactly. as a consumer, I want to find good content. if the content is good there will be monetization prospects at the destination vs at the source

doing this at scale makes it an economically viable as well as pleasant interface which Google does quite well already

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by cebu »

freitasm wrote: post #21

From their About Yep page: "We built Yep from the ground up so that we can give 90% of ad revenue to content creators." And yet there is nowhere around the site explaining how creators can claim that "revenue".

Think SEO spam is a problem now? Wait until "creators" are paid per their SERP

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by hackernewds »

pete_nic wrote: post #27
rafram wrote: post #20

As with most supposed Google killers, it suffers from the small issue of being terrible. Right now I'm in Los Angeles and looking to buy a roll of film. When I search for "where to buy film in los angeles": - Google gives me three top Maps results, all small photo stores relevant to my search, a Yelp results page, some relevant reddit discussions with recommendations, and then sites for some individual businesses. -…

Google is a large, horizontal platform. My intuition is the next Google killers will be specific to verticals, health comes up on HN a lot. All that to say, if I were yep I would focus on search that avoids big, corporate, SEO stuff and connects users with thoughtful, small creators. I would not focus on commerce eg film, as it’s a crowded vertical full of Google, Shopify, Etsy, and other large e-commerce players.

These already exist. Product searches start directly at Amazon. Food delivery searches start directly at Doordash.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by hackernewds »

kevinh wrote: post #16
shannifin wrote: post #13

Sounds nice, I'm all for more search engine competition even regardless of the revenue share model. I'm curious how exactly they pay creators though? If I had a super-popular blog that got millions of hits a month through search, does that mean they'll send me a check or something? Also, what about sites like YouTube that mainly host content created freely by others?

The profit share section ( https://yep.com/profit-share ) doesn't have any details as to how it works, which doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

How is this even supposed to function? It's as if Grubhub went and said they're now doing delivery from every single restaurant in the US

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by Method-X »

I love how there are now many little search engines trying to differentiate themselves from Google.

A few others worth checking out are:

1. https://search.brave.com (they use their own index / my personal favourite)

2. https://kagi.com

3. https://neeva.com

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by paulcole »

Method-X wrote: post #35

I love how there are now many little search engines trying to differentiate themselves from Google. A few others worth checking out are: 1. https://search.brave.com (they use their own index / my personal favourite) 2. https://kagi.com 3. https://neeva.com

This Yep thing isn’t a search engine. It’s a content-marketing campaign for Ahrefs. They don’t want to compete with Google. They want press for themselves.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by gruez »

lelandfe wrote: post #29
gruez wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Right now I'm in Los Angeles and looking to buy a roll of film. When I search for "where to buy film in los angeles": I remember I was in school they'd teach you how to formulate search queries. You wouldn't ask questions like "how to bake a cookie", you'd use keywords like "cookie recipe". Search engines have progressed much since those days, such that you can ask questions and it would mostly know what you were lo…

I’d encourage all those who believe this is just a keyword issue to try to find a search on Yep that produces film stores in LA. I just tried like 10 incantations to no avail “Film store in los angeles” gives me DVD stores on yellowpages.com as the 3rd result…

To be honest I'm not even quite sure what you mean when you say "film stores". It could mean stores that sell photographic film, or stores that sell movies. Presumably you mean the former, but I certainly wouldn't call stores that sell film as "film stores". They'd most likely be photography stores or maybe at big box/department/pharmacies. In that respect, asking for "film stores" is like asking for "bacon stores".

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by Method-X »

paulcole wrote: post #37
Method-X wrote: post #35

I love how there are now many little search engines trying to differentiate themselves from Google. A few others worth checking out are: 1. https://search.brave.com (they use their own index / my personal favourite) 2. https://kagi.com 3. https://neeva.com

This Yep thing isn’t a search engine. It’s a content-marketing campaign for Ahrefs. They don’t want to compete with Google. They want press for themselves.

Those two goals are not mutually exclusive.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by anthropodie »

gruez wrote: post #38
lelandfe wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d encourage all those who believe this is just a keyword issue to try to find a search on Yep that produces film stores in LA. I just tried like 10 incantations to no avail “Film store in los angeles” gives me DVD stores on yellowpages.com as the 3rd result…

To be honest I'm not even quite sure what you mean when you say "film stores". It could mean stores that sell photographic film, or stores that sell movies. Presumably you mean the former, but I certainly wouldn't call stores that sell film as "film stores". They'd most likely be photography stores or maybe at big box/department/pharmacies. In that respect, asking for "film stores" is like asking for "bacon stores".

Man I admire how you want yep.com to be successful. I want it too.

At this point anyone who will even try to build a search engine will have my backing because God this world deserves another search engine.

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