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Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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I don't trust Ahrefs at all. The whole SEO industry is tainted, and Ahrefs is not a good part of it.

I don't want a search engine that pays "creators" (a search engine finds things, if they want to monetize it it is after it is found). I want a search engine that runs exactly as many ads as are needed to pay for itself, nothing more. Preferably with an option to pay for myself as an option. I'm guessing that means https://kagi.com/ but I would like to see some more competition.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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post #20

As with most supposed Google killers, it suffers from the small issue of being terrible. Right now I'm in Los Angeles and looking to buy a roll of film. When I search for "where to buy film in los angeles": - Google gives me three top Maps results, all small photo stores relevant to my search, a Yelp results page, some relevant reddit discussions with recommendations, and then sites for some individual businesses. -…

>Right now I'm in Los Angeles and looking to buy a roll of film. When I search for "where to buy film in los angeles":

I remember I was in school they'd teach you how to formulate search queries. You wouldn't ask questions like "how to bake a cookie", you'd use keywords like "cookie recipe". Search engines have progressed much since those days, such that you can ask questions and it would mostly know what you were looking for, but obviously a less sophisticated search engine can't do that?

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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post #20

As with most supposed Google killers, it suffers from the small issue of being terrible. Right now I'm in Los Angeles and looking to buy a roll of film. When I search for "where to buy film in los angeles": - Google gives me three top Maps results, all small photo stores relevant to my search, a Yelp results page, some relevant reddit discussions with recommendations, and then sites for some individual businesses. -…

Google is a large, horizontal platform. My intuition is the next Google killers will be specific to verticals, health comes up on HN a lot. All that to say, if I were yep I would focus on search that avoids big, corporate, SEO stuff and connects users with thoughtful, small creators. I would not focus on commerce eg film, as it’s a crowded vertical full of Google, Shopify, Etsy, and other large e-commerce players.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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post #25
post #20

As with most supposed Google killers, it suffers from the small issue of being terrible. Right now I'm in Los Angeles and looking to buy a roll of film. When I search for "where to buy film in los angeles": - Google gives me three top Maps results, all small photo stores relevant to my search, a Yelp results page, some relevant reddit discussions with recommendations, and then sites for some individual businesses. -…

>Right now I'm in Los Angeles and looking to buy a roll of film. When I search for "where to buy film in los angeles": I remember I was in school they'd teach you how to formulate search queries. You wouldn't ask questions like "how to bake a cookie", you'd use keywords like "cookie recipe". Search engines have progressed much since those days, such that you can ask questions and it would mostly know what you were lo…

I’d encourage all those who believe this is just a keyword issue to try to find a search on Yep that produces film stores in LA. I just tried like 10 incantations to no avail

“Film store in los angeles” gives me DVD stores on yellowpages.com as the 3rd result…

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not exactly their fault for noticing a valuable problem and solving it though. Google is the reason the incentive exists in the first place, no?

It seems the websites with the most poor-quality, ad-filled, possibly incorrect information are the ones trying to game the system the most. If you're someone who just has a blog or website and is focused on the content, this turns ahrefs into a 'cartel' you must pay into if you want your own SEO to be on the same par as those spending all their time on seo optimization.

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