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Re: Ceiling Air Purifier

#131

Great idea. What's worked for me is simply taking a 20"x20"x1" filter and sliding it into the back cover of a standard $25 Lasko box fan. Cheap, easy option for air filtration in the home.

Reminds me of this video that came from University of Michigan during one of California's fire season when many fires were ablaze and air quality was terrible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH5APw_SLUU

Re: Ceiling Air Purifier

#132
Matthias Wandel's secondary YouTube channel has a lot of recent videos about retail air purifiers compared to homemade ones using box fans. I'm not up to snuff on the science of it all, but he does a lot of cool comparisons on the effectiveness of each. Worth a look if you're interested in this sort of thing.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3_AWXcf2K3l9ILVuQe-XwQ/vid...

Re: Ceiling Air Purifier

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That’s a great idea. What kind of filter do you use?

Some really good discussion of this has happened on HN last time California was on fire.

Given the wildfire risk for this summer[1], I'd say this article is quite timely.

1. https://www.predictiveservices.nifc.gov/outlooks/monthly_sea...

Re: Ceiling Air Purifier

#136
"people often select purifiers based on their maximum flow"

I don't know if that's really true. Looking at the top 20 or so Air Purifiers on Amazon, almost none of them mention the CADR or flow in the title, and very few of the reviews mention it. Most talk about sound, "HEPA", "ozone-free" etc.

My guess would be that people care much more about physical appearance than maximum flow. I would personally not tape an octagon of dirty air filters to my ceiling because that would be look ridiculous and probably not filter as well as my beautiful, silent $200 Winix box.

Re: Ceiling Air Purifier

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Great idea. What's worked for me is simply taking a 20"x20"x1" filter and sliding it into the back cover of a standard $25 Lasko box fan. Cheap, easy option for air filtration in the home.

Tends to burn out the motor though. Vornado used to sell an air filter that took two 10x20” house filters. Before I discovered that model I was trying to build my own using computer case fans (my intent was to hide the loud box under furniture). Home Depot used to carry those in the 1500 classification which was great, but those are getting harder to come by too, and even the regional chain that had them doesn’t as m…

The EPA disagrees with you regarding duct cleaning. It makes sense since anything that is sitting in your duct can’t be removed by the airflow your hvac generates. If it could be then it wouldn’t be in there in the first place.

https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/should-you-have-a...

Re: Ceiling Air Purifier

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That’s a great idea. What kind of filter do you use?

Is that enough for allergens, smoke, and pet dander? I don't care about virus filtration (which is not going to happen anyway, if it's something I'm making out of cardboard and duct-tape)

You're not getting a "guaranteed certified safe" environment with cardboard and duct tape, but there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to get a significant risk reduction.

You're trying to reduce the viral load in the air, not build a BSL4 lab.

Re: Ceiling Air Purifier

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> Tends to burn out the motor though. Do you have data on this? Adding a fan shroud to the Corsi-R supposedly does not increase energy usage or motor temperature: https://www.texairfilters.com/how-to-improve-the-efficiency-... I'm looking for data on the power usage and motor temperature difference from a 20" Hurricane in normal operation, with a 20" merv 14 on the back, a C-R and a Comparetto.

Same author https://www.texairfilters.com/a-variation-on-the-box-fan-wit... chose 4 filters due to higher throughput. He has an addendum at the bottom where they tested the fans and saw no problems with a single filter. I... don't understand how they come to those conclusions based on the charts in the paper. All of the fans were >10ºC hotter and one model went up by 20. 15C is a lot for cheap, planned obsolescence c…

They might be cheap, but I have never seen a box fan fail, and I have a few in service for many years.

Consider that they are designed for cooling in a window application, which means they must be able to survive operation 35C in direct sunlight. As an air filter, mine operates at 22C in shade. That easily makes up for the temperature differential due to load conditions.

Re: Ceiling Air Purifier

#140

"people often select purifiers based on their maximum flow" I don't know if that's really true. Looking at the top 20 or so Air Purifiers on Amazon, almost none of them mention the CADR or flow in the title, and very few of the reviews mention it. Most talk about sound, "HEPA", "ozone-free" etc. My guess would be that people care much more about physical appearance than maximum flow. I would personally not tape an oc…

Most mention the room size or square footage they cover though, which is a simplified way to say the same thing
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