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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by Tehchops »

systemvoltage wrote: post #517
1270018080 wrote: post #486

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Is there a grand conspiracy plotting against him to discredit him? Or are his own actions doing the damage?

To me it seems like there are 3 things at play. 1) Political incongruency. 2) Character flaws. 3) Actions and actual impact. These 3 things mix together in a toxic cocktail of hate (or love) depending on which side of the table you’re on. The sides of the table are primarily determined by 1) and the 2) and 3) are glued together to fit the narrative. I am expecting more from HN tbh.

> I am expecting more from HN tbh.

In a previous comment you(an HN user!) framed all comments or discussion that might portray EM in a negative light as painting him as:

> "...the force of evil and a reincarnation of satan."

A pitch-perfect example of a straw-man argument, and now you're claiming the level of discourse is not up to your standards?

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by dhimes »

rchaud wrote: post #444
babypuncher wrote: post #434

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His Twitter meltdown on Memorial Day was one of the biggest signs of mental illness I've seen yet.

It's an issue when you have to specify the date of the meltdown.

Just because he did so doesn't mean he had to. People like me, who don't follow his Twitter news unless it's thrown in our face, actually appreciate that kind of specificity.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by somehnacct3757 »

sitkack wrote: post #96
lr wrote: post #81

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Why not WFT: Work From (a) Tesla? Of course, it would have to be, "at the office," (read, parking lot) otherwise the worker would get fired.

And since the Teslas are self driving, they can just roam the public roads while people work, an endless TS (Tesla Stream) cycling between two superchargers.

I fully expected to see this in SF eventually. Wifi equipped buses set up like coffee shops that drive around SF all day. Cheaper than commercial real estate, at the time. I'm sure COVID has changed the calculus considerably.

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Post by olyjohn »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #503
TremendousJudge wrote: post #465

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Haven't the alternatives caught up to them, anyway? Most of the EV coverage I see nowadays is for cars made by traditional manufacturers, and are always saying that they match teslas (or are big improvements, such as the f150 lightning)

I'm really hoping someone creates a viable alternative to the Roadster 2.0

There's plenty of alternative vaporware cars out there that will also never hit production.

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Post by systemvoltage »

Tehchops wrote: post #521
systemvoltage wrote: post #517

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To me it seems like there are 3 things at play. 1) Political incongruency. 2) Character flaws. 3) Actions and actual impact. These 3 things mix together in a toxic cocktail of hate (or love) depending on which side of the table you’re on. The sides of the table are primarily determined by 1) and the 2) and 3) are glued together to fit the narrative. I am expecting more from HN tbh.

> I am expecting more from HN tbh. In a previous comment you(an HN user!) framed all comments or discussion that might portray EM in a negative light as painting him as: > "...the force of evil and a reincarnation of satan." A pitch-perfect example of a straw-man argument, and now you're claiming the level of discourse is not up to your standards?

It was an intentional hyperbole to thrust a point across if you didn’t read between the lines. I thought it was obvious. I could improve in my message though.

I do expect more from HN than vitriol of this sorts.

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Post by Karawebnetwork »

systemvoltage wrote: post #482
Karawebnetwork wrote: post #209

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This reminds me of Musk's recent comments about "political attacks against him in the coming days". It has since been learned that he had been reached by Business Insider to comment about the sexual abuse case beforehand. He already knew that an article against him was coming so he framed the narrative before it even reached the public. I would not be surprised this was the same here. Tell everyone "Leave if you don'…

I feel like you could have said a lot of this with less words. But, exposing Elon seems to be the focus of your comment. Non-sequitur after non-sequitur.

Please rewrite my comment in your own words without losing any information.

English is my second language and I am curious on how you would achieve this.

From my point of view it is as barebone as it can be with 125 words, 7 sentences and 4 paragraphs.

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Post by javajosh »

Swenrekcah wrote: post #60
javajosh wrote: post #22

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I think it's a very high likelihood. Why? Because Musk is idea-driven and doesn't really care about money, so he is the perfect person to harness with financial and legal obligation, because he will continue to pull no matter what. Sure it's slavery with extra steps, plus so many people hate Musk there's not even a cultural downside!

Wait a minute.. Are you suggesting it’s slavery to hold a billionaire businessman to his contracts?

I'm just saying his counter-parties have good reason to go for blood, because he's got a lot of it .

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Post by ghaff »

Silhouette wrote: post #501
ghaff wrote: post #331

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>I would be surprised if we know what the "new normal" looks like before at least another 5-10 years have passed. I generally agree although a lot of things have generally drifted back to business as usual. However, other patterns still need to play out. The degree to which pre-pandemic office work for knowledge workers who can work remotely goes back to pre-pandemic patterns still has to play out and I suspect, for…

I suspect you will be proved right that the changes often won't be as big as some have predicted. One of the surprises to me about the spike in working from home during COVID was how many people didn't really like it either because their work environment wasn't very good or just because they missed the direct communications and social aspect of working in an office together. Based on that I suspect we'll see a lot of…

For all the fervor here about remote work, a lot of people especially with fairly easy commutes prefer to go into an office many days for the environment, social aspect, work/life separation, change of scenery, etc. I worked for an analyst firm at one point and many people came in most days even though they usually didn't need to.

Early on in the pandemic, there were lots of predictions about what pandemic activities would stay and which would be dropped/be much diminished. The evidence seems to suggest that things today are a lot more like the before times than they are different.

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Post by olyjohn »

NovemberWhiskey wrote: post #292
raisedbyninjas wrote: post #167

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LAN parties have been fitting a surprising number of people onto 8' folding tables for decades.

OTOH LAN parties do not generally persist long enough to need to worry about fire codes etc.

I don't know how we didn't trip all the breakers. Running a crapload of CRTs, and multiple 500+ watt power supplies on one circuit?! Plus 2 projectors? I wonder how hot that breaker panel got lol.

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Post by dharmaturtle »

belter wrote: post #489
dharmaturtle wrote: post #332

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Meh. The youtuber criticizes Musk's statement "This is something we could fix" by saying "He does not say 'This is something we _might_ be able to fix.'" Seconds later, the youtuber goes on to criticize Musk's disclaimer of "I'm not saying this is going to solve everything... it's something that _might_ be helpful." You just can't win with these "skeptics".

You missed the part where Elon Musk says it will take a few years before then can do a "brain memory upload". So they will be content of spending the first decade "just" fixing spine and brain injuries: https://youtu.be/cgyFL5Hzy-s?t=1116 Then Elon Musk says he will solve Schizophrenia, Depression and Morbid Obesity: https://youtu.be/cgyFL5Hzy-s?t=1137 Yes,...really what is with the skeptics? Can't the recognize a ge…

Oh god I demonstrate how the timestamped quote is incorrect and now I've attracted the attention of the Musk anti-fans.

Let me be clear: Musk is human. He has positive and negative qualities. His Thailand pedo comments were, to put it bluntly, fucking retarded. His autopilot timeline was wildly optimistic. His behavior on Twitter is infantile.

And yet this is not carte blanche to twist his words into something unrecognizable. You can't just criticize someone for not being nuanced, then criticize their disclaimer that happens seconds later. That's intellectually dishonest. At that point I stopped listening because it is clear (to me) that the youtuber has an agenda to push.

As to your comments, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Is it incorrect to believe that brain implants may lead to solutions to these problems?

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