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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by stickfigure »

deelowe wrote: post #303
ethanbond wrote: post #218

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Yeah, since the BI story – and in particular his attempt to frontrun it and turn his personal legal troubles into a culture war battleground – I think we can assume pretty slimy tactics from Musk.

I started assuming this after Musk called that cave exploration expert in Thailand a pedophile.

Of all the things to complain about Musk, this seems like the weakest. Some dude started a twitter fight with Musk and got called a "pedo guy" in response. Sounds like a South African response to me. I'm guessing you've never spent time with Australians, they call everyone cunts. Who cares?

Potty mouth is not a mortal sin.

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Post by l33t2328 »

infamouscow wrote: post #315
mbesto wrote: post #141

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> I see an ongoing, what appears to be coordinated, attempts in the mainstream/social media to paint him as crazy. The parent never used the word crazy, you did. His behavior is erratic. I don't know how that's not obvious to anyone watching him. Does it make him crazy? I don't know, but he is most certainly erratic.

So he should be condemned because he behaves differently than you? As a reminder, this kind of thinking lead to the worst atrocities of 20th century history.

Comparing people critical of Elon’s erratic behavior to Nazis is pushing things a little too far, don’t you agree?

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Post by rchaud »

consumer451 wrote: post #407
pm90 wrote: post #259

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People have pointed out that he’s likely going through mental health issues and Im inclined to agree with them. He went a bit too far with the Twitter buyout stunt. Honestly, he should just get off social media and take a vacation or something. But of course he’s too egotistical to do that and will try to muddle his way through it. Its amusing to watch as an outsider but I can’t imagine its a lot of fun for people at…

> People have pointed out that he’s likely going through mental health issues and Im inclined to agree with them. There could be all kinds of other factors, but I have been a Musk watcher for a decade and I have a theory on the timing. There was a major shift in Musk’s public behavior, and his state residency, around the time he was about to have to pay a lot of CA state income tax. Having to write a ten digit check…

The timing is precisely what tells me that Musk's actions are his alone. There is no right-hand person advising him from the shadows. Such a person would have told him that going on public rants about Democrats and switching his vote to Republican might have been convincing if it wasn't public knowledge that his political donations already favoured the GOP.

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Post by babypuncher »

pm90 wrote: post #259
danso wrote: post #223

Recession or not, Musk's emails (the stoppage of remote work 2 days ago, and then yesterday's "super bad feeling") seem like reactionary outbursts than wise management. What was the point of pissing people off with the abrupt change to the remote work policy, only for the next day to announce imminent layoffs?

People have pointed out that he’s likely going through mental health issues and Im inclined to agree with them. He went a bit too far with the Twitter buyout stunt. Honestly, he should just get off social media and take a vacation or something. But of course he’s too egotistical to do that and will try to muddle his way through it. Its amusing to watch as an outsider but I can’t imagine its a lot of fun for people at…

His Twitter meltdown on Memorial Day was one of the biggest signs of mental illness I've seen yet.

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Post by evan_ »

tonoto wrote: post #211

So.. Did I get this right now? In order to avoid effects of a hypothetical recession, Tesla will cut 10% of the jobs and by doing that, Tesla will be one of the bigger causes of that recession to actually take place?

One read is that Elon and others actively want to cause a recession.

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Post by marcosdumay »

hedora wrote: post #317
PheonixPharts wrote: post #269

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I'm suspecting that we'll see forced return to office as a way to implement layoffs without as much bad PR. Stock will go up since costs will drop, but management will be able to say that is more an issue with return to office rather than a company failing. "We're doing great, it's just that some employees don't share our commitment and focus on doing things well, and making our mission a priority." There has been a…

Here's the covid sewage data for Silicon Valley: https://covid19.sccgov.org/dashboard-wastewater A week or so ago, it didn't look too bad. It is indeed much worse than I realized right now.

The data from my country looks like if there was a new immunity-escaping variant that causes even less grave symptoms than omicron. It's... well, it's not "good", I guess "validating" is the word here... so, it's "validating" to see other places following the same trend.

Here hospitalization and deaths are not following the infection curve at all. They are still following the end of the earlier omicron curve.

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Post by danans »

turzmo wrote: post #164
jes wrote: post #85

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Can you say more? Musk is the world’s wealthiest individual. I’m having trouble seeing see how being bad at making predictions results in that outcome.

Not agreeing or disagree that Elon is bad at predictions (do predictions even matter from somebody as unstable and fickle as Elon?) but there are plenty of people who have made one or two good bets and then got nothing else right.

> do predictions even matter from somebody as unstable and fickle as Elon?

When they command the attention and loyalty of millions of people who believe everything they say, yes they matter a great deal.

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Post by marcosdumay »

notabee wrote: post #345
hedora wrote: post #317

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Here's the covid sewage data for Silicon Valley: https://covid19.sccgov.org/dashboard-wastewater A week or so ago, it didn't look too bad. It is indeed much worse than I realized right now.

I think the parent poster might also be talking about consequences, such as this gem that the CDC dropped recently. 20% of the working age adult population possibly having new onset long term health effects. Oops! (And that's not even getting into things like whether certain chopped up viral fragments might be seeding protein tangles and thus Alzheimer's or Parkinson's.) >These findings translate to one in five COVID…

Risk is the product of probability and severity. The OP is talking about severity being corrected upwards, while the GP is talking about probability increasing too.

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Post by alkonaut »

GuB-42 wrote: post #61
lapcat wrote: post #38

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Remember when Marissa Mayer eliminated WFH at Yahoo? Seemed to work out well for them.

Yahoo is an internet company. Tesla makes cars. Even for IT workers, I guess that sometimes you need to test on the actual hardware, and the factory is where most things happen. I am not saying that working from home is impossible, or that banning it is a good thing, but you can't really compare Yahoo and Tesla.

Working every single minute at the factory regardless of role also seems more like dogma than anything actually based in facts. It's the (cargo) cult of work rather than wanting productive employees.

Maybe a software company should have 1/5 days in office (for meetings/dicussions/onboarding/...) while a manufacturing company might need 4/5 days for desk workers to be on site. But to say 40h of 40h should be at a desk doesn't seem like a sensible treshold.

Right now my time is 6PM and I'm at my office desk. Because I'm home. Granted, I'm writing on HN waiting for some tests, but if I had been at my office, I would have taken a 2h lunch and left at 2 or 3 this afternoon ...

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