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Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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I bet it's likely a bug. There were times i wasnt able to post LinkedIn urls in the past. I bet it's their crawler/integrity service having hard time. Never assume malice when it can be sufficiently explained by a bug or incompetence.

I've been trying to make an email with a gTLD my primary personal email address. Its so annoying having so many forms say "that's not a valid email!" just because they didn't get the message things like .ninja, .dev, .duck, .fun are all valid TLDs these days. No, their form says emails can only be .com, .net, .org, .mil, or maybe a handful of ccTLDs.

Also annoying is companies not allowing the plus sign, e.g.: user+addition@example.com

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

#152
post #74

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"Private company", in this context, means "not the government". The opposite would be "public sector", referring to the government or companies it owns/runs.

Except, how many government owned companies are there in the US? What's the point in saying "private company" if 99.99+% of companies are private?

The private nature of the company is the specific thing that matters here. It is right to emphasize that through use of the adjective. You’d better ask “why use the word ‘company’ at all” and the answer is that it’s a useful noun upon which to supply the critical adjective.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

#153
post #123

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Yeah, I think Hanlon's Razor was intended to apply to individuals, not organizations. Often the "stupidity" of an organization is a shield for malice or greed.

Organizations are made up of people. When you have 5000 people making small decisions with 0.1% possibility of being wrong, if have 40% of chance having at least one mistake over 5000 decisions.

People are not independent coin tosses. They coordinate, manage, overrule, scheme, discuss, and process information in strategic ways that render these kinds of extremely simplified models impossible.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

#154
post #31

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Nowadays, maybe let's assume malice. Maybe its a false positive and a bunch of people stop using twitter, Facebook, google, apple, or Microsoft as a result. That is less harmful (some might say it's good) than the opposite, where big corps use our collective desire to forgive as a tool to exploit us. You can apply that saying to your wife and kids. Or your neighbour. Big corps that make money off exploiting peoples n…

That must be a hard life assuming things are working against you

Not as hard as getting taken for a ride at every turn.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

#155

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Nowadays, maybe let's assume malice. Maybe its a false positive and a bunch of people stop using twitter, Facebook, google, apple, or Microsoft as a result. That is less harmful (some might say it's good) than the opposite, where big corps use our collective desire to forgive as a tool to exploit us. You can apply that saying to your wife and kids. Or your neighbour. Big corps that make money off exploiting peoples n…

Hanlon's Razor is, I believe, a good rule of thumb, but people keep using it in situations such as this one where it's not just potentially malice (wanting to harm someone for little other reason than wanting to see them hurt or wanting to hurt) but also greed/self-interest. Hanlon's Razor as stated makes sense to me. I see a lot more stupidity in the world than I see people wanting to hurt for no other reason. But g…

Why do you think a bug is a "simpler" explanation for this behaviour? Maybe if all links were broken then sure, but if only specific sites that operate against the interests of Twitter stop working doesn't that point to something else going on?

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

#156
post #46

Not surprising. Social networks have been known to block smaller competitors. After all, it’s their right to as a private company. Isn’t that how that works? Everyone always says that, and this is a case of that.

> After all, it’s their right to as a private company. Why do people always use the term "private company"? Twitter is a publicly owned corporation. If the Musk deal goes through, it'll be private. But I'm not sure what work the word "private" is supposed to be doing.

I think that part is tongue in cheek. Because that's usually the argument repeated ad nauseam whenever anyone criticizes social media speech moderation policies.

But as other comments have already mentioned, you are confusing two different meaning of private/public.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

#157
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nowadays, maybe let's assume malice. Maybe its a false positive and a bunch of people stop using twitter, Facebook, google, apple, or Microsoft as a result. That is less harmful (some might say it's good) than the opposite, where big corps use our collective desire to forgive as a tool to exploit us. You can apply that saying to your wife and kids. Or your neighbour. Big corps that make money off exploiting peoples n…

I would qualify this by saying the priors matter. Twitter has torched their credibility in a flaming dumpster fire. That changes how one might make assumptions.

It also just looks suspect. Mastadon is a competitor to twitter, right? It's obviously good for twitter that no one can post links to the mastadon sign up page, right? Do I still have to assume it's just a bug?

I sure wish the bugs in my code ended up benefiting my company :)

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

#158
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Private company", in this context, means "not the government". The opposite would be "public sector", referring to the government or companies it owns/runs.

Except, how many government owned companies are there in the US? What's the point in saying "private company" if 99.99+% of companies are private?

What's the point in saying "private company"

Different rules, laws, regulations, etc. apply to private sector vs public sector.

Specifically in this case, OP is implying that a theoretical public sector social network wouldn't be allowed to block linking to mastodon because of the second (EDIT: no, wait, first amendment!) amendment, but that Twitter is well within its rights since they are in the private sector. Whether that's true or not, I dunno.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

#159
post #46

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> After all, it’s their right to as a private company. Why do people always use the term "private company"? Twitter is a publicly owned corporation. If the Musk deal goes through, it'll be private. But I'm not sure what work the word "private" is supposed to be doing.

I think that part is tongue in cheek. Because that's usually the argument repeated ad nauseam whenever anyone criticizes social media speech moderation policies. But as other comments have already mentioned, you are confusing two different meaning of private/public.

> But as other comments have already mentioned, you are confusing two different meaning of private/public.

No, I'm not not confused. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31609113

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

#160

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It's not a bug to disallow "distribution of hacked material" in your Terms of Service. If you think it was political, you should certainly inform the FEC! They found that Twitter had acted "for commercial reasons and not for the purpose of influencing an election" so they'd appreciate the heads up.

ah yes, because when a federal agency doesn't punish a multi billion dollar corporation, we all know it's because they definitely didn't do anything wrong. They're so trustworthy!

Please refrain from replies without content. Why did the FEC fine the DNC and Clinton for violating rules related to the Steele dossier? My understanding is that the DNC also has a few dollars. Did they forget their bias?
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