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Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

#62
oh u want obscure?

Java: Play 1 https://www.playframework.com/documentation/1.5.x/guide1

JavaScript: lol, no, https://htmx.org and https://hyperscript.org

likes: Play 1 is a pretty good JVM take on Rails, a little too much bytecode magic for my tastes, but still very low friction

htmx and hyperscript are my own babies. htmx improves the expressiveness of HTML and hyperscript is a reinterpretation of HyperTalk for the web. I am not objective about it, obviously, but I do love working with them: I think they keep the web the web in a way most other approaches don't.

dislikes: Play 1 is really old and is barely supported. htmx and hyperscript are both written by a lunatic I don't really like sometimes.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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post #55

My org is heavily invested in Ember and it sucks. We're into it for purely historical purposes. It was chosen by devs 2 generations past. It's not a terrible framework conceptually, but being invested in anything niche or out of fashion is such a burden. No one knows how it works, can't hire for it, updates are rare, hard to find integrations. I would not venture outside the mainstream if you can't afford to take big…

What version of ember? Modern octane is pretty similar to vue and react. Honestly all of the frameworks are very similar now.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

#64
Pyramid: It's a mid-tier web framework for Python. It's more modular and less opinionated than Django, has more batteries included than Flask, and works without issue with PyPy. Its predecessor, Pylons, was used to develop the original version of Reddit. It's documentation can be sparse in some areas, but it has many examples and tutorials, and the code base isn't terrible when you need to dig into implementation details. I use it for my employer's website and many internal web apps.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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I'm still building most projects using Spring Boot and Kotlin. While Spring can probably be classified as a popular framework for the Java language I don't see it being used a lot in combination with Kotlin.

For me personally it's a very productive framework for backend APIs or web projects with server side templating with Thymeleaf as the template engine.

My setup combines the flexibility/configuration/productivity of Spring Boot (and the full JVM library ecosystem) with the modern language features and ergonomics of Kotlin.

I keep things simple in most of my projects. No reactive/coroutines/graalvm. One-thread-per-request blocking model is good enough for most of my use cases. Annotation based DI and configuration.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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post #60

It's been a long time since I wrote any PHP in anger but back when I did, I got a ton of mileage out of CodeIgniter ( https://codeigniter.com/ ). It looks like it's still around and being actively maintained. I can quite clearly remember a number of projects that went from being just an idea to 90% functional in the span of an evening. I write Python almost exclusively now, but still pine for something like CodeIgnit…

Same here, love Codeigniter. It’s the perfect combination between not using a framework and having most of the features you need. I remember learning everything by reading the manual in one evening and I was ready to go the next day.

I worked on projects with Laravel as well but it never clicked for me. It feels to me that Codeigniter is one level of abstraction lower which I appreciate

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

#67

SBCL with hunchentoot. My colleague started work on a side project in this stack and now we are trying to make it into a proper production application within our organization. I am climbing some learning curves at the same time, emacs, lisp, several packages... Fun times!!!

Came here to see if this was mentioned. My choice, too. Absolutely cannot be beaten, imo.

I've written my own framework on top of it for things like simplified routing and static page compilation with automatic sitemap generation.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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post #60

It's been a long time since I wrote any PHP in anger but back when I did, I got a ton of mileage out of CodeIgniter ( https://codeigniter.com/ ). It looks like it's still around and being actively maintained. I can quite clearly remember a number of projects that went from being just an idea to 90% functional in the span of an evening. I write Python almost exclusively now, but still pine for something like CodeIgnit…

Me too, one of my first projects was building an app with CodeIgniter that was interacting with a Magento shop backend. Was so cool when we finally were able to trigger an order in Magento from our CI app. Whatever one thinks about PHP, it does get a lot of devs started in web programming.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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post #34

PHP - I found new love for 1) Nette https://nette.org/en/ 2) Phalcon https://phalcon.io/en-us If you agree, we should talk :)

Their testing framework looks really nice, I'll have to check that out.

yes, i do love their forms. It supports bootstrap and is way too simple to just get things done.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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post #60

It's been a long time since I wrote any PHP in anger but back when I did, I got a ton of mileage out of CodeIgniter ( https://codeigniter.com/ ). It looks like it's still around and being actively maintained. I can quite clearly remember a number of projects that went from being just an idea to 90% functional in the span of an evening. I write Python almost exclusively now, but still pine for something like CodeIgnit…

I think you should check out Nette, if you cherish and love codeigniter, Nette is even way too simpler and gets things done.

https://nette.org/en/

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