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Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Ok? They are a private company and they can block links that they don't like. Facebook has done the exact same thing and nothing happened. You are free to complain, criticise them, scream at these companies or protest, but like I have said many times before they will not change and it is futile to believe that they ever will as long as they 'moderate' or do whatever they want to do on their own platforms. So unsurpri…

They're a private company and it's a shitty thing to do. No one is saying regulation should necessarily step in, but we don't have to like it and we shouldn't not complain and not talk about it just because of that.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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post #5
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Affected are https://mastodon.social and https://mastodon.social/about . Linking to actual user content actually works, so unlikely a problem of user generated content violating TOS but Twitter pro-actively avoiding supporting the platform.

This is the kind of thing that's interesting to document for a potential anti-trust case. Blocking the entire domain because it's "spammy" could be argued as fair - but only blocking the main links is more suspect.

antitrust? Is twitter a monopoly now?

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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No, this is arguably "monopolization", which is illegal under the Sherman Act. Even the 9th Circuit, which has adopted an implausibly broad reading of 230, does not think that 230 is a defense against antitrust claims.

> this is arguably "monopolization", which is illegal under the Sherman Act What does Twitter have a monopoly on? Twitter users? By that definition by local dry cleaner has a monopoly on me.

Suppose you wanted to launch a new social network. Where would you get your users?

Not being able to talk about it on existing social networks is basically a death sentence for growth. I saw it first hand.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Not surprising. Social networks have been known to block smaller competitors. After all, it’s their right to as a private company. Isn’t that how that works? Everyone always says that, and this is a case of that.

> After all, it’s their right to as a private company. Isn’t that how that works? Everyone always says that, and this is a case of that.

Unless I missed it, until you wrote this nobody had argued it wasn't their right to do this.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this is arguably "monopolization", which is illegal under the Sherman Act. Even the 9th Circuit, which has adopted an implausibly broad reading of 230, does not think that 230 is a defense against antitrust claims.

> this is arguably "monopolization", which is illegal under the Sherman Act What does Twitter have a monopoly on? Twitter users? By that definition by local dry cleaner has a monopoly on me.

Do you have lots of followers at your local dry cleaner? Posted a lot of notes on their walls that people like to read?

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the kind of thing that's interesting to document for a potential anti-trust case. Blocking the entire domain because it's "spammy" could be argued as fair - but only blocking the main links is more suspect.

antitrust? Is twitter a monopoly now?

It’s the only Tweet in town.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Not surprising. Social networks have been known to block smaller competitors. After all, it’s their right to as a private company. Isn’t that how that works? Everyone always says that, and this is a case of that.

No, this is arguably "monopolization", which is illegal under the Sherman Act. Even the 9th Circuit, which has adopted an implausibly broad reading of 230, does not think that 230 is a defense against antitrust claims.

What "Monopolization"? Mastodon is not competing against either Facebook or Twitter. It is so remote that it has already failed after 6 years with the rate it is going and still unable to take even 10% of users from either of these platforms. The same is also true from the likes of Gab or 4chan which are also not 'competitors' or alternatives to Facebook or Twitter at this point.

It is really not early days for either of these 'alternatives'.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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post #7

Ok? They are a private company and they can block links that they don't like. Facebook has done the exact same thing and nothing happened. You are free to complain, criticise them, scream at these companies or protest, but like I have said many times before they will not change and it is futile to believe that they ever will as long as they 'moderate' or do whatever they want to do on their own platforms. So unsurpri…

> They are a private company

I've been hearing this a lot lately, surprisingly from people who consider themselves to be politically left. I say surprisingly because historically, leftist ideology has been quick to solve problems with corporate behavior with regulations, whereas traditionally it's been the right pushing laissez-faire.

In any case, guys - private company doesn't mean your behaviors and policies aren't constrained. There are innumerable laws that regulate corporate behavior and these can be expanded at any time. Corporate behavior can be constrained without limitation if the public so chooses.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the kind of thing that's interesting to document for a potential anti-trust case. Blocking the entire domain because it's "spammy" could be argued as fair - but only blocking the main links is more suspect.

antitrust? Is twitter a monopoly now?

Who are the competitors? What is their market share?
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