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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by mbesto »

user3939382 wrote: post #135
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #6

Uh,ok... Two days ago the "Who is hiring" thread here had something like 20+ software engineering positions for Tesla. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31585021 More erratic decision making from Mr Musk. Like, I dunno, the time he told Twitter he was taking Tesla private while tripping on LSD. He needs to step aside from Tesla at this point.

> erratic decision making from Mr Musk I'd be the last person to defend Elon Musk, I don't know the guy, but just want to point out that when you're at his level of wealth and power you also have very wealthy, powerful enemies. I see ongoing, what appears to be coordinated, attempts in the mainstream/social media to paint him as crazy. I have no special access to the truth but I'd be unsurprised if those stories are…

> I see an ongoing, what appears to be coordinated, attempts in the mainstream/social media to paint him as crazy.

The parent never used the word crazy, you did. His behavior is erratic. I don't know how that's not obvious to anyone watching him. Does it make him crazy? I don't know, but he is most certainly erratic.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by [deleted] »

say_it_as_it_is wrote: post #122
ericbarrett wrote: post #16

A couple of days ago somebody posted this Reddit thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/v2lpdw/e... "Tesla expanded massively during Covid, as of now half of the dev team(including me) don’t have parking space or desk. It’s physically impossible for everyone to return to office. "Should I ignore the email, or should I drive to the office and sit under the stairs?" Commenters' general feeling was…

Obviously, people who value their jobs show up earlier to claim a parking space and a desk. Coffee is for closers.

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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by johannes1234321 »

sitkack wrote: post #96
lr wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not WFT: Work From (a) Tesla? Of course, it would have to be, "at the office," (read, parking lot) otherwise the worker would get fired.

And since the Teslas are self driving, they can just roam the public roads while people work, an endless TS (Tesla Stream) cycling between two superchargers.

You mean they can ride through the office building, pass the managers desk, who can check the work.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by almost_usual »

say_it_as_it_is wrote: post #122
ericbarrett wrote: post #16

A couple of days ago somebody posted this Reddit thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/v2lpdw/e... "Tesla expanded massively during Covid, as of now half of the dev team(including me) don’t have parking space or desk. It’s physically impossible for everyone to return to office. "Should I ignore the email, or should I drive to the office and sit under the stairs?" Commenters' general feeling was…

Obviously, people who value their jobs show up earlier to claim a parking space and a desk. Coffee is for closers.

Might as well live at work.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by MrPatan »

massysett wrote: post #79
procgen wrote: post #65

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Is remote work hammering the economy? What effect does it actually have on productivity?

It's keeping a lot of people at home who otherwise would be in downtowns or suburban office districts buying lunch, having clothes drycleaned, stopping in stores, buying gas, etc.

What's the broken window fallacy?

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by ghaff »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #108
Silhouette wrote: post #48

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Remote work is bad for the economy. I've seen this claim a few times now. Are we actually sure it's true? Or does it just shift long-term spending trends? For example maybe people don't go to lots of inner city coffee bars in business districts any more but local cafes near residential areas are thriving. Maybe people don't stop in big stores on their way home from work but home delivery services are thriving. Maybe…

> For example maybe people don't go to lots of inner city coffee bars in business districts any more but local cafes near residential areas are thriving. People don't buy coffee on the way to work, people don't buy coffee on the way home, people don't buy sandwiches and snacks, people don't spend money on commuting, people don't spend money at resturants for launch, companies stop having team lunches. People don't go…

>Too early? Two-years in?

Yes. It's been two years when so many other things haven't been normal though--and to some degree still aren't. And it takes time for people to, for example, commit to working remotely on a more or less permanent basis, e.g. by moving to a location that doesn't have good local job prospects.

Remote work is also mostly a topic for a relatively limited number of "knowledge workers." If anything, it looks like the change will be less than some were expecting. (Though even relatively modest changes can, at scale, have fairly significant knock-on effects.)

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by jhgb »

jeffbee wrote: post #126
GuB-42 wrote: post #61

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Yahoo is an internet company. Tesla makes cars. Even for IT workers, I guess that sometimes you need to test on the actual hardware, and the factory is where most things happen. I am not saying that working from home is impossible, or that banning it is a good thing, but you can't really compare Yahoo and Tesla.

A measurable amount of Tesla’s profit margin comes from pre-selling a $10,000 software package that does not yet exist.

Is it really the case? Surely the development of this software package has its own very significant expenses, considering how much effort such a thing must take. What exactly are the annual revenue from selling this package and the expenses spent on working on it?

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by michaelt »

treis wrote: post #103
massysett wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's keeping a lot of people at home who otherwise would be in downtowns or suburban office districts buying lunch, having clothes drycleaned, stopping in stores, buying gas, etc.

This is a "broken window" fallacy.

If you've had people fixing broken windows for 100 years then windows stop getting broken, it may be more efficient in the long term - but in the short term, you've got lots of glaziers going bankrupt.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by mtoner23 »

massysett wrote: post #79
procgen wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is remote work hammering the economy? What effect does it actually have on productivity?

It's keeping a lot of people at home who otherwise would be in downtowns or suburban office districts buying lunch, having clothes drycleaned, stopping in stores, buying gas, etc.

IDK the economy isn't built on dry cleaning and lunch

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by raphaelj »

jes wrote: post #85
raphaelj wrote: post #20

> Elon Musk feels ‘super bad’ about economy Considering how bad Elon is at making predictions, this is actually great news.

Can you say more? Musk is the world’s wealthiest individual. I’m having trouble seeing see how being bad at making predictions results in that outcome.

Just top of my mind:

"Covid will be gone by April 2020":

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960

"FSD will be achieved by 2018":

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/686279251293777920

"Neuralink in human brains by 2020":

https://news.yahoo.com/everything-know-neuralink-elon-musks-...

Being wealthy has also a lot to do with being at the right place, at the right time, inherited wealth, and outsourcing efficiently.

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