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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#81

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When people say “no desk” what they mean is “no space in the building to allocate a desk”.

This is Tesla, office workers will soon find themselves working in a tent.

Why not WFT: Work From (a) Tesla? Of course, it would have to be, "at the office," (read, parking lot) otherwise the worker would get fired.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#82
post #65

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I agree I don't think it'll be 2007-2008 bad. I think it'll be worse. Covid, Ukraine, Remote Work, etc are all hammering the economy.

Is remote work hammering the economy? What effect does it actually have on productivity?

it has significantly shifted spending; downtown landlords are kind of screwed

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#83
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> The message, sent on Thursday and titled “pause all hiring worldwide”, came two days after the billionaire told staff to return to the workplace or leave So people who claimed less than 24h ago it was at lest partially a way of creating cheap layoffs, were proven right pretty swiftly.

Remember when Marissa Mayer eliminated WFH at Yahoo? Seemed to work out well for them.

I feel like someone can eliminate WFH AND have it not be intended as a "soft layoff".

Whatever Yahoo's issues were they were going on for a LONG time. Even when they HAD WFH...

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#84
post #12

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It's possible they are still hiring for software and laying off for other areas.

I'm sure that's the case. But personally I wouldn't want to be a SWE in that kind of scenario. Dumpster fire all around you and company as a whole pivoting to austerity while at the same time hiring 20+ software engineers? When I see that many open postings at once, alarm bells go off.

I think that's going to be a lot of places soon.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#85

> Elon Musk feels ‘super bad’ about economy Considering how bad Elon is at making predictions, this is actually great news.

Can you say more?

Musk is the world’s wealthiest individual. I’m having trouble seeing see how being bad at making predictions results in that outcome.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#86
post #72

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When people say "no space in the building to allocate a desk” they mean "No space to neatly put a desk." Companies have often shown repeatedly they can force desks into rooms when needed. Anyways, they can and will buy office space to put the desks when needed.

what about occupancy/fire code limits?

Elon will plead to the fire marshal to arrest only him, and force his workers to come in anyways

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#87
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree I don't think it'll be 2007-2008 bad. I think it'll be worse. Covid, Ukraine, Remote Work, etc are all hammering the economy.

Is remote work hammering the economy? What effect does it actually have on productivity?

Unemployment in city centers and businesses reliant upon the city commuter and office crowd are not doing well. The unemployment rate of Manhattan is still pretty high for instance. A lot of remote workers have priced out local service workers in some small towns, so some restaurants and businesses are now more or less permanently closed due to short staffing. They can't afford to live where they work so they moved. You could blame AirBnB as well for this development where short term rentals outnumber actual rentals available. Under those conditions I'd expect a detriment to the local economy.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#88
Right. Raise your hand if you were surprised to see this happen.

So yesterday when it was Coinbase [0] announcing cuts the reaction was, 'ha ha crypto bad', 'worst of luck to them' and now when it also affects companies like Tesla, now the reaction is 'Shocking', 'everyone is doing it now', 'I wouldn't read much into it. A 10% cut is completely normal and healthy for a company the size of Tesla.'

This to me sounds like some form of cope that many thought the market was always going up forever.

The recent market rally of 2020 had to come to an end.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31600505

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#89

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When people say “no desk” what they mean is “no space in the building to allocate a desk”.

This is Tesla, office workers will soon find themselves working in a tent.

Tbh I wouldn't mind "working" out of a tent for a few weeks if the "office" was located in a natural area and the whole affair was more of a company-sponsored camping "workation" where half the day was spent doing outdoor activities.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#90
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Anybody care to speculate on the chance that Twitter forces their sale to him, and then TSLA goes down far enough that Musk gets a margin call on the loan he's using to finance the purchase, and he loses everything? Or at least half of everything?

I think it's a very high likelihood. Why? Because Musk is idea-driven and doesn't really care about money, so he is the perfect person to harness with financial and legal obligation, because he will continue to pull no matter what. Sure it's slavery with extra steps, plus so many people hate Musk there's not even a cultural downside!

He doesn't care about money which is why he complains about taxes all the time?
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