Google cancelled a talk on caste bias

Post by sshlocalhost98 » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 9:07 AM UTC

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Not just caste discrimination, but also sexism. I have worked at least three companies where if there were Indian women, the vast majority were in QA.

Interesting fact: Talk to Indian upper caste women who claim to be feminists about caste; you'll be shut down quickly. I have had countless arguments only to be named "mansplainer". The activism from powerful groups will flow in the same social structure which does not affect their power.

Post by doetoe » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 9:14 AM UTC

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Ah, like how in my home country, it’s a ‘well known fact’ that people lower on the economic ladder like to give their children foreign sounding names, whereas people that are well off give their children traditional, and even double traditional names. Guess the country :)

That's common but sometimes the cause is not what you would think. In Spain there are many people with foreign or uncommon names... that are also biblical names. Abraham, Sarah, Aaron, Jonathan or Josuah ( Josué ) were unheard half a century ago. Now they're usual. Why? In part, because Evangelical missionaries were more successful in poor quarters, specially among gypsies. Also there's the famous actors thing. But n…

Post by knorker » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 9:26 AM UTC

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I don't think it's a matter of definition. Unless you mean "it's not racism when I say it. When I say it it's just a fact". Whether they use the N word, or saying "being on time" is "whiteness", racism is always defined as "not what I'm doing". Actually the only real definition of racism I would say is "mentioning race in any way, except the way I do it". For your 99.999%, I would say that WAY more than one in a hund…

I think the problem is - and that is likely what OP was referring to - that if everything is racism then nothing is racism. And if being on time is racist, I guess everything already is racist. It is an odd frame of mind. >>> For your 99.999%, I would say that WAY more than one in a hundred thousand would overtly say that their group (race, religion, skin color, gender) is "better" than another. Especially as you lea…

Post by kalimanzaro » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 9:28 AM UTC

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If you were born outside of India, it would be pretty much like any other national /racial identity -- inferred from family (based on family names for instance). Like mentioned in the GPs write-up: > Unlike race, it’s easier to hide your caste, especially in a new country. Many dalits change their official last name to something common enough that it’s hard to identify them.

There's touches of that elsewhere too (hiding race or ethnicity with a name change.) I have an extremely unusual surname in Canada, and most North Americans don't recognize it as European in origin, which has led to assumptions in the past. My grandfather said he considered changing it to something English in the 50s, but ultimately he kept it. I know that, at least historically, some Christian Arabs, Jewish people,…

Post by pydry » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 9:43 AM UTC

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American caste is just money though.

That's not what caste is. Caste is a value assigned to you at birth that you cannot change no matter what you do. It's similar to race but stupider