It's feasible that Cyanogenmod will release a compatible version though, isn't it?
OK, but if Google isn't releasing it, isn't that an indication that it won't run very well even if you do manage to install it?
Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0
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Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0
#72There's no incentive for Google to provide backward compatibility for Android, hence they don't.
Well, it would make people feel more confident about buying Android devices. I am not happy to discover that I am going to be stuck with a browser that chokes on most newspaper webpages (a lot of them keep reloading some 3rd party widget that renders the page unusuable after about 30-40 seconds).
What prevents you from using firefox or opera?
Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0
#73I've always wondered about this, especially in embedded devices. Amongst the many mistakes Microsoft made with Vista, first and foremost was allowing the bloat to get so bad that it wouldn't run at all on machines that ran XP quite happily. Later Windows 7 could actually run on those old XP machines with many, if not most, of the features that Vista bragged about. So here we have Google, arguably a company which can…
This isn't a hardware capacity issue. The Snapdragon has a 1 GHz CPU very similar to the Cortex A8, an Adreno 200 GPU broadly comparable to an SGX 535, and the same 512MB of DRAM that all the other phones of its generation have. Its UMTS radio wouldn't make the cut on today's store shelves, and its camera sucks. But fundamentally this is about planned obsolescence. Google doesn't want to have to pay to maintain the d…
Both the Nexus S and Nexus GS use an SGX540 which is fair jump in GPU performance.
Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0
#74Great. I guess I can stop hitting the "Update" thing every day in the hope that 4.0 will appear. I can't help but note that the iPhone 3GS and iPod Touch purchased the same month are already running iOS 5.0 and I haven't noticed any speed issues.
My 3GS is almost unusably slow on iOS5.
I remembered when this happened to be when iOS 4 came out and I still had a 3G, a complete wipe/restore solved the problem for me that time, perhaps that will work here, YMMV.
Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0
#75Great. I guess I can stop hitting the "Update" thing every day in the hope that 4.0 will appear. I can't help but note that the iPhone 3GS and iPod Touch purchased the same month are already running iOS 5.0 and I haven't noticed any speed issues.
Google updates many parts of "Android" such as Mail, Maps, Youtube, Market etc. independently of the OS. Other parts are improved not on the phone, but server side (e.g. google home page, mobile web interfaces, audio transcription). The bits that it doesn't upgrade (launcher, browser etc.) can often be replaced by 3rd parties, including repackagings of parts of later versions of AOSP. I was pleasantly surprised how m…
"The... (launcher, browser etc.) can often be replaced by 3rd parties, including repackagings of parts of later versions..."
"I managed to get most of the other features..."
"I added a custom froyo rom... and will probably jump to CyanogenMod soon."
Punchline: "All in all, in not sure why people are so keen for Google to follow such an archaic and monolithic release model."
Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
taking the time to run great on hardware of that capability pays huge dividends in the phone world. It really won't though, that's the problem. The Nexus One is nearly two years old. It's somewhat of an anomaly because it'll have a higher than average number of off-contract purchases, but in general once a person's contact has run for two years they get a new phone. Two year old phones just aren't that important. Spe…
in general once a person's contact has run for two years they get a new phone That kind of market calculus made sense before the recession. Now the value proposition has changed, and while people may still buy newer hardware (such as tablets) they expect better value from their tech purchasing because increasing wealth is no longer a given. Also, people are more suspicious of corporations in general, especially ones…
That kind of market calculus made sense before the recession. Now the value proposition has changed, and while people may still buy newer hardware (such as tablets) they expect better value from their tech purchasing because increasing wealth is no longer a given.
I'm not so sure about that. You can (probably- I'll be honest, I haven't checked for sure) get a more powerful Android handset than a Nexus One for free if you sign a new two-year agreement right now. There's very little to lose there- except having to take on a two year plan. Except...
Also, people are more suspicious of corporations in general, especially ones that are sitting on a large cash pile. Public sentiment is fickle and can quickly bite a company in the ass - look at how far the stars of Groupon and Netflix have fallen in just two quarters.
I'm extremely skeptical of the former claim- people's anger is directed towards banks, not large corporations with hordes of cash (by and large). If they were, people would hate Apple.
Groupon and Netflix are both things that you can quite conceivably do without. A cellphone these days is seen as an essential, so signing up for a new two year term isn't such a friction point. You're going to need cellphone service from somewhere, after all.
Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, it would make people feel more confident about buying Android devices. I am not happy to discover that I am going to be stuck with a browser that chokes on most newspaper webpages (a lot of them keep reloading some 3rd party widget that renders the page unusuable after about 30-40 seconds).
What prevents you from using firefox or opera?
I like the way the stock browser renders normal webpages. I don't care for the 3rd party browser interfaces, and I don't think it's too much to expect the stock browser to be reasonably robust - for the same reason that I expect the default wheels on a car to be sufficient for normal driving.
Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0
#78I've always wondered about this, especially in embedded devices. Amongst the many mistakes Microsoft made with Vista, first and foremost was allowing the bloat to get so bad that it wouldn't run at all on machines that ran XP quite happily. Later Windows 7 could actually run on those old XP machines with many, if not most, of the features that Vista bragged about. So here we have Google, arguably a company which can…
taking the time to run great on hardware of that capability pays huge dividends in the phone world. It really won't though, that's the problem. The Nexus One is nearly two years old. It's somewhat of an anomaly because it'll have a higher than average number of off-contract purchases, but in general once a person's contact has run for two years they get a new phone. Two year old phones just aren't that important. Spe…
Supporting a two year old phone might be important to say X% of users, but I'd argue that Android phones include features that are important to Y% My girlfriend cares way more that her 3GS runs iOS5 than she does that it doesn't have a 4.5" screen.
Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0
#79It's feasible that Cyanogenmod will release a compatible version though, isn't it?
Do you think ICS can actually run on N1? I do not think so. Otherwise why wouldn't google provide an update? Thus, what do you think cyanogen can do to make ICS properly run on the N1 hardware?
The N1 has 512MB of internal space, and doesn't guarantee that the user has a MicroSD card inserted. Many Android apps (including Google-provided ones) only install to internal storage, and require janky hacks to work from the SD card. If it's impossible or impractical to update or remove ICS features to fit in a half-gig, it's impossible or impractical to port ICS to the N1.
Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
What prevents you from using firefox or opera?
I like the way the stock browser renders normal webpages. I don't care for the 3rd party browser interfaces, and I don't think it's too much to expect the stock browser to be reasonably robust - for the same reason that I expect the default wheels on a car to be sufficient for normal driving.
You should give Dolphin Browser a try. The best mobile browser. Period.